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HAMMERS FACE £50M CLAIM

Sheffield United raise stakes in Carlos Tevez affair

UP IN ARMS - the Carlos Tevez row could now cost West Ham as much as £50m
UP IN ARMS - the Carlos Tevez row could now cost West Ham as much as £50m

SHEFFIELD UNITED plan to increase their demand for compensation over the Carlos Tevez affair to £50MILLION.

The Blades originally filed for just over £30m when their case for damages against West Ham was upheld by an independent tribunal headed by Lord Griffiths.

But it will be well into 2009 before the exact figure is determined after the Yorkshire club agreed to a Hammers request to delay the hearing that will set the amount.

The hearing should have started on Friday, but will now take place in February.

And Sport of the World understands that Bramall Lane directors are considering a revision of their demands after being advised that their relegation at the end of the 2006-07 season will have cost them a lot more than £30m in the long term.

It will give the hearing a major headache as the Championship club will argue that they might well have still been in the top flight had a Tevez-inspired West Ham not forced them down two seasons ago.

The Argentinian striker netted seven goals in the run-in — including the winner at Manchester United on the last day of the season.

The situation will throw football into legal chaos as Blades players, ex-manager Neil Warnock and even other Premier League clubs such as Bolton plan to sue the Hammers after they breached the rules over the signing of Tevez and were not deducted points.

Instead, of course, they were fined £5.5m — but that is a pittance compared to the amount they could now be forced to play.

West Ham are certain to fight the mounting claims but Blades chairman Kevin McCabe is showing no signs of softening his club's stance.

Injustice

And he gave his backing to other parties joining the legal onslaught against the Upton Park club.

McCabe said: “West Ham should have been relegated, not us, so there’s some validity for a claim from people who have suffered financial loss for their actions.

“I have sympathy for so many people who have been affected by this sporting injustice.”

McCabe blames Premier League chairman Sir Dave Richards and chief executive Richard Scudamore for the crisis.

He added: “What are the Premier League going to do about it? I’d love a letter of apology because they are fully aware Sheffield United shouldn’t have been relegated.

“What action are they going to take?

“Any fair-minded person can’t blame Sheffield United one iota for this situation. An innocent party has suffered for the actions of one club and one club only.”

Your comments

The West Ham fans just dont get it,although I have a great deal of sympathy as they were a respected club till they fell into the hands of the Icelandic folk.
The club cheated for their own benefit,got found out and then carried on the period of misconception.
If Sheffield United had not taken this course of action,then it would have been Wigan instead.
The whole problem has been exacerbated by the sheer greed,corruption of the premier league,whos top officials should resign.
Football fans of a club should deseve better .

By Patrick Judson. Posted October 19 2008 at 12:20 PM.

Surely Sheffield United and the other affected parties should be taking up their cases against the Premier League and not West Ham United Football Club? It was this governing body which decreed the original punishment so any legal recourse should lay firmly at their feet. First of all, for a situation like this to arise in the first place shows ineffective regulation and, secondly, the quite shambolic way it has dealt with this ridiculous ongoing saga has been farcical.

Heads should roll at the Premier League and them, not West Ham United, are ultimately responsible and have a great deal to answer for.

By The Voice Of Reason. Posted October 11 2008 at 4:34 PM.

Sheffield United were relegated because Sheffield United weren't able to win enough points over a 38 game season FACT! There are always external factors and runs of bad luck that have an effect on a season but to single out the contributions of 1 player over a handful of games is ridiculous.
Sheffield United were relegated because Sheffield United weren't able to win enough points over a 38 game season FACT!

By Matt. Posted October 6 2008 at 4:21 PM.

If anything, Tevez's involvement was detrimental to the WHU side. His inclusion disrupted the shape & harmony of a close-knit team that had finished 9th & nearly won an FA Cup just months before. A long run of bad performances cost Alan Pardew his job. TEVEZ DID NOT SCORE IN 20 GAMES, surely his goal drought was a major cause for WHU's involvement in a relegation battle in the first place. Tevez scored a meagre 7 goals all season (not one against Sheff U I might add), had they been spread more evenly & not all clumped together at the end, I doubt he'd have been the target of such ridiculous accusations. It's been said that his goal at Man Utd was so important, but surely any winning goal scored in any part of the season has almost equal value - he won maybe 3 games with his goals? Sheff U want £30m for this dire return - outrageous!

Shelling out £30m (for Sheff Utd's miserable season) could break WHU, the other WHU players do not deserve such dispicable treatment, they were largely responsible for keeping WHU up. If you disagree then you disrespect them, football is a team sport. Their outstanding effort, especially against Man U, has been totally overlooked. I remember Robert Green's brilliance & James Collins' resilience, two of many great battlers in that game. Should they sue Sheff U when their careers are affected by a WHU clear out. Maybe Sheff U should sue Man U for underestimating the WHU squad. Man U are probably too big for Sheff U to mug, I suppose.


By Damian Aynsworth. Posted October 6 2008 at 5:13 PM.

What an absolute mess this has become. Sheffield United were relegated because they had less points and worse goal difference than other team. As an unbiased observer I cannot see how they can blame anyone else but their own players/manager for getting themselves in this position. If they felt that they were good enough to stay up why did they not win enough matches to do so? Why did they not win the championship league last season? or even come second or third to gain promotion back to the top flight. The simple answer is that they were not and are not good enough to be in the Premiership. I honestly feel that the arbitration decision to allow any amount as compensation to Sheffield United has set a very dangerous precedent. Looking at the above comments it could mean claims for all sorts of wrong decisions could be made. Where will it all end. Chaos!
West Ham were penalised by the FA. Rightly or wrongly in the way of a monetary fine. How can another penalty be issued for the same crime. Sheffield United should do the honourable thing and do their talking on the pitch. If they think they are good enough, they should prove it.

By Richard Nicholson. Posted October 6 2008 at 7:03 PM.

I'm a West Ham fan and I'm sick of this how about a new solution forget everything else relegate West Ham and promote the team that lost the playoff final
Justice enough for you Sheff Utd fans after all that would serve football as well The teams that weren't good enough get relegated and the team that cheated(although I still fail to see how) also get relegated
JOB DONE

By trythis solution. Posted October 6 2008 at 11:57 AM.

Why are you West Sham fans going on and on about this, leave it to the Boards of each club, you have allways been a good club with good fans but you are now looking very bitter and twisted.

By Hoyland Blade. Posted October 6 2008 at 9:34 AM.

So much ignorance. "Wst Ham lied twice". WRONG, AS NO THIRD PARTY INFLUENCE WAS EVER EXERCISED, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE WRANGLE ABOUT TEVEZ'S MOVE TO MANCHESTER UNITED WAS ALL ABOUT?



West Ham should refuse to pay a penny, then it will be taken to the High Court, and the whole ridiculous "case" will be blown apart.

By STAG. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:34 PM.

west ham broke the rules and the premiership should have docked points. Its the fault of the PL management that this is still dragging on when west ham should be playing championship football. But they cant send a club down with a lot of money could they?

By cheeta. Posted October 5 2008 at 8:45 PM.

I can categorically state that if it had been the other way round that West Ham would not have been punished in this way ,.Premier league management hierarchy are a law unto themselves and any reccompense can never cover up the closed shop system within.
There are too many lives and livelihoods been altered by this travesty of justice to start looking for a beginning to an end .But my first thoughts would be to relegate West Ham and reinstate Sheffield ,wherever they finish at the end of this year . And if justice prevails and West Ham finish bottom this year in Premiership then fast track them to division 1 as punishment .
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By ALAN SCOTT. Posted October 5 2008 at 7:19 PM.

This will drag on and on and on for years to come, West Ham won't pay a penny simple. Sheff Utd would have gone down the season after no doubt they were awful in the run in and as for their manager, now at Crystal Palace says it all really.

Mcabe just can't accept the fact that he had a team just not good enough and the embarressment that they threw away a 10 point gap. It doesn't matter if you think Sheff Utd are a big or small team the fact is they were not good enough, I mean come on Rob Hulse and that fantastic well known goal poatcher Jon Stead.

By nathan. Posted October 5 2008 at 6:23 PM.

ok so whufc supporters say one man dosn't make a team or save them from relegation, yet there's supporters from chelsea, arsenal,etc etc, saying that ronoldo won the league for man unted, go figure,also they say that brown owned the club at that time so he is the one responcible. If a company is sold ( Thats what football clubs are these days) don't the new owner's take over all debts and liabilities. therefor it's whufc not brown who should pay the piper. By the way i'm not a sheffield united supporter

By ken. Posted October 5 2008 at 5:53 PM.


It's about time the PL made some sort of statement about this.
After all, it's their lack of action that has caused all this.
The original judgement was based on the first cover up - which West Ham came clean about (eventually).
But that judgement was flawed based on revelations since.
No point in deducting points and relegating West Ham now - the time for that has long gone.
So what is the correct solution ?
Let them off scot free and hope it all goes away ?
That's not going to happen.
£5.5m for the first offence - because 'a points deduction would mean certain relegation and that would not be fair to West Ham supporters'.

Even the most die hard West Ham fan cannot pretend to think that's fair.
No, it's time for Scudamore and his pals at the PL and grow a pair and step in.

OK, £50m is a figure that in my opinion, way above what the final agreed level will be. But the longer the legal people for West Ham drag this out, the more that figure will increase.

West Ham are the guilty party in all this, not SUFC.
Only West Ham can bring this to an acceptable conclusion.

So, get it sorted, it's not going to go away.









By mike . Posted October 5 2008 at 4:06 PM.

sheffield united, get over it you stupid sheep ********west ham are not at fault, their previous owners are. also you went down coz u dont deserve a place in the premier league, simple as. I dont see the two other bottom teams complainin, an also it wernt just tevez that inspired them, what did he, go in net ?, score all the goals? set up every goal? defend ? no so its a team effort not down to one player, tevez's agents shud pay, but not you, they should pay, the FA towards something that everyone can benefit from. also i dont see all the other teams, complainin about tevez especially man united, coz wernt it him that beat us ?

By ryan. Posted October 5 2008 at 3:27 PM.

doe's everyone seem to forget that when sheffield united sold Kabba to watford they had it written into his contract that he couldn't play against the blades, this i believe also comes under 3rd party influence and is also against FA rules, the reason they haven't been punished for this is because they were relegated before the FA could do anything about it, and are now under the football league. so lets face it both teams are cheating Ba!*$rds and both should have been relegated

By Jay. Posted October 5 2008 at 3:14 PM.

I think both Sheffield Utd the club and the fans are living in a dream world. YOU were crap that season thats why you went down. It was not due to one player it was due to your inability to play at Premiership level. Get over it, at the end of the day no amount of money will make you a good team. Laughing stock thats what you are. West Ham were punished for what they did so that as far as I am concerned should have been the end, but no you losers had to throw your toys out the pram.

To be honest with you wanting to carry on this charade I feel you are going after the wrong people, Brown was the owner of West Ham at the time. He is the one you should be gunning for. Lets face it if you bought a car that had been used in a hit and run are you then guilty of that crime?? No so how are the new owners responsible for the previous owners misdemeanours.

By Al. Posted October 5 2008 at 2:25 PM.

At the end of the day it does not matter what all you West Sham fans say.
The men that matter have agreed in MaCabe's favour so tough luck.

By Sandsman. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:53 PM.

Each and every person will and should as a matter of principle have their say and opinion on the tevez matter but at the end of all the deliberation's and arguement's the simple fact of the matter is that west sham cheated and broke the rule's.They were quick enough to break the law's of the game and they should be just as quick to face their punishment.Pay up and shut up west sham!

By 100% blade. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:52 PM.

why dont they just bury this mess everyone is fed up to the back teeth with it get back to the buisness of playing football whats done is done its another season time to move on and stop behaving like children

By janet parrett. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:46 PM.

Sheffield United were NOT good enough to stay up. They were laughing at West Ham when they beat us 3-0 saying "YOU'RE GOING DOWN!!". They had 3 games to go and only got 1 point. Their manager, Steve Warnock could not get them back up. Then WHY did he not stay on and try and get them back up again?

By John Gregory. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:42 PM.

West Ham Utd FC - You have been PROVEN to be liars and cheats. You lied on at least 2 occasions to the PL. The PL showed their weakness and bias towards 'supposedly' bigger clubs and in doing so, made a mockery of the beautiful game.

An independant tribunal, which was to be the FINAL decision agreed to by BOTH clubs, found in favour of Sheffield Utd FC, and decided that compensation needed to be paid. West Ham have now reneged on that AGREEMENT, again showing their dishonesty, and continued to try to wriggle of their punishment via some sort of technicality.

Sheffield Utd FC deserve every penny they will get when this shambles of an episode is finally concluded, and so will everybody else involved who is obliged to claim for loss of earnings.

West Ham Utd FC are a disgrace to the game. Regardless of any points deduction, they should have been AUTOMATICALLY relegated for this blatant breach of the rules. What comes around goes around, and it will be divine retribution when fat cheques all around land on various doormats.

COYRAWW!

By BlademeiSter. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:11 PM.

Coming from a completely neutral prospective.

Why are West Ham being made to pay up for something the FA regulates?

surely the fact that West Ham were fined by the FA means the subject is complete!

However if Sheffield are to be making a claim, should it not be against the FA?? As they were the ones who decided on punishment. Why should a club that already have been punished be made to pay up.

For Sheffield there is no proof that one man bought on their fall from the Top Flight. If they were such a strong team they would never have been in the bottom 3 intially.

My conculsion. Grow up, get over it, the decision has been made, accept it.

This country is changing too quickly, it all started with companies such Claims direct, 'No win No Fee'. May be Sheffield have adopted on such firm.





By Ratty. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:11 PM.

i cant understand all the hastle over this , its the premiership who are at fault , they have rules , if any are broken then it should have been picked up after his first game , and he would not have been allowed to play any more games .

By harold nixon. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:01 PM.

its about time sheff utd sit down and take a look at the bad season they had and blame themselves for it and not someone else yes west ham did wrong they were punished for it but one player doesnt make a team the next thing sheff utd will try and sue everyclub whos goal keeper saved a shot by them wise up sheff utd accept u had a bad season and play the glorious game get yaslef back in the prem league if your good enough that is

By peter . Posted October 5 2008 at 1:00 PM.

sheffield united didnt strengthen their team for the premiership in the first place, they werent interested in tevez and west ham until the season was nearly over. sheffield united's board and neal warnock are the only people to blame for the club being relegated, west ham didnt play the games for sheffield united, tevez didn't relegate them either - the team lost their own games and put themselves in the relegation position. The fact that bolton are now talking about taking action against west ham is a joke too - they haven't lost anything from the situation and are only wanting to shorten the number of relegation places in this seasons league should west ham have to go into administration from this stupid decision

By Scuzby. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:53 PM.

What do you think would have happened if Sheff Utd "borrowed" Fernando Torres illegaly for the last 10 games of the season and Wet Sham had gone down on goal difference. I think it quite likely they may have done the same thing as Sheffield United and with ex pig chairman Richards and Scudamore in charge we would have been immediately relegated

By Walt. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:49 PM.

All this hysteria! its very simple - West Ham fielded an ineligible player and were found guilty and then lied about it and fielded him again for 3 games in which he played a major role in the points gained.

What do they expect to happen? Look at the smaller clubs like Rotherham and Bournemouth points deducted automatically.
Fashionable clubs get preferred treatment - discuss!!

By sensible fan. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:46 PM.

I agree Claret & Blue and has a hammers fan myself the West Ham board did fall foul of the laws. However, let's hope Sheffield Utd do get themselves back into the Premier League as soon as possible (as they keep saying they were good enough to stay up), otherwise the bleating won't stop. Perhaps if they drop into League One they'll put in a new claim to West Ham for that one (oops! Have I given them ideas???.

By Thunder. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:27 PM.

Sheff Utd are a disgrace, they would have been relegated anyway and are now embarrasing English football.
I dont like wet spam but this is getting silly, i hope Sheff Utd rot in the CC or go down.

By Ted. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:31 PM.

Just a few points I would like to make:

The FA has to clear all players before they put on a shirt for any club, so all the checking up of the owner should have been done then.

We have been fined and punished for the crime comitted which was all down to the FA not checking out the player properly.

It was Sheffield United that got themselves relegated as they was not good enought to stay up as they did not win enough games.

A team is made up of 11 Players not just one.

The FA Set the punishment so they sent Sheffield United down not west ham. They did not choose the punishment the FA did so we have paid for it already.

Stop moaning, Grow up and buy some more dummy's as you'll need them to stay up this year unless you try to find another escape goat.

By Hammer Fan. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:31 PM.

Sorry I must be missing one crucial point. Sheffield UTD were not 3rd from bottom because of Carlos Tevez? One man? Ha ha?
Also people remember what they want to remember. WHUFC had a terrible start to that season even though the season before we finished firing on all cylinders.
It was clearly identified in the media at the start of the season that the impact of two superstars had caused major problems in the dressing room and the team could not gel together.
Why is it this battle is focused on only the positive impact? I would argue WHUFC would not have been in the bottom half of the league if they hadn't signed the two superstars?

By Rob Ellis. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:03 PM.

The greed of Sheffield United is beyond belief. The players who are also planning to sue now should take a long hard look at themselves. They only had to win the last game but could'nt even do that and the season was over 38 games. No one complained when Tevez played all them games but failed to score one goal. Alot of credit should also go to Rob Green who played out of this world in the run in - ask any Arsenal fan!

They keep going on about justice but it we all know it is really about the money, next week it will be £60m.

By Lynn. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:04 PM.

I think the only disgrace is the way S/U dealt with defeat. Did you deserve to stay up? really?
I remember the crying and to be honest I shed a tear. I was so happy to see you useless wannabes get what you deserved. Ha ha

By Rob Ellis. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:09 PM.

If I bought a car off a man that had run up parking fines and he didn't pay them does that mean I am now responcible to pay them ..... no. So why does our new chairman bear the brunt of decisions made by that idiot Terry Brown.
I can understand the blades being upset at being relegated, but you did that all by yourselves by being cr@p on the pitch. So don't look for others to shoulder the blame.

By claretandblueblood. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:08 PM.

at the end of the day all sheff utd had to do was draw to wigan AT HOME!!! to stay up its there own fault they werent good enough, You've got more right to sue liverpool for fielding a weakend team agasint fulham which in turn kept fulham up
one man wasnt responsible for the efforts of west ham players that season : green, noble, zamora, mullins, cole, mccathy all playe out of there skins

Also wen sh*** utd played man u away u fielded a weakend team asumming u were going to lose and u think that we costed u 3 points,
Enjoy the championship

By Irons. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:10 PM.

Sheffield United are a cheating disgrace to football, I hope there is a knock on affect and people sue them until they are forced into bankruptcy.

Thought I'd make an ill-informed comment like many others on here!

By Phil. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:12 PM.

TEVEZ WAS NEVER INELIGIBLE!

For the love of God! Can people discussing this subject at least proceed from the basic facts of the "case"?

You can shriek about West Ham lying "a second time" all you like, but it doesn't stand up. What was all the wrangling over the Tevez loan to Man U about? It was West Ham DEMONSTRATING that the player could be moved on their terms only, and not the terms dictated by MSI (the third party owner).

Also, THIRD PARTY OWNERSHIP IS NOT ILLEGAL. THIRD PARTY INFLUENCE IS, and as I have just demonstrated, third party influence was resisted.

Most fans who comment on this case clearly have no idea what they are talking about, or believe that if they say something enough times, it will come true.

By STAG. Posted October 5 2008 at 11:43 AM.

West Ham are a cheating disgrace to football, I hope there is a knock on affect and people continually sue them until they are forced into bankruptcy.

By Gary Farmer. Posted October 5 2008 at 11:45 AM.

That's a laugh. a Middlesborough fan saying we wouldn't have survived in the Premiership anyway. What do you base that on?

If a smaller club like Middlesborough can do it I'm sure a bigger club like Sheffield United can.

West Ham thought the rules didn't apply to them and are belatedly learning the hard way that they do.

We should be compensated financially so we can strengthen our squad, West Ham should be relegated for the second offence of lying and we should take their place. Sorted.

Oh, and Scudamore and Richards should be sacked.

By FATTYFOULKE. Posted October 5 2008 at 11:38 AM.

It takes more than 1 player to make a team, at the end of the day if the Sheffield United players played as a team and fought for the results they needed, they would still be in the Premier League. Stop clutching at straws and take a long hard look at the ones that are really to blame - SHEFFIELD UNITED.

By Sam. Posted October 5 2008 at 11:22 AM.

Completely ludicrous and rife with greed.

This case taking the game of football over a cliff edge that it won't recover from.

From a neutral and footballing point of view (and that is what it's supposed to be about) I can't see what WH done that Man U aren't doing now. Yes there were irregularities in Tevez original contract for which a fine was made. The league subsequently changed the rules to stop it, which to me shows they didn't have the rules correct in the first place.

Any claim by any other party after that should have been stamped on, which it was by the High Court. What a micky mouse arbitration is doing sitting after the High Court beats me, I thought the only body senior to the High Court is the Lords.

It's just opportunism by loud mouthed greedy people who run football clubs that have no chance of success on the football field where the real game is played.


By Phil. Posted October 5 2008 at 11:13 AM.

what would have happen if a LONDON club had been relegated and sheff utd had the dodgey player?

By esablade oz. Posted October 5 2008 at 10:59 AM.

Hammers seem to miss the point.

The crime of fielding an ineligible player based on a clause in the players contract is quite serious but the initial crime was made worse because WHUFC tried to cover up their crime with lies and deception.
The punishment should have been a points deduction but WHUFC can NOT be blamed for a more lenient fine. It was a PL decision.

However after being found guilty of lies and deception it looks like WHUFC continued to lie and deceive the PL by giving them false information so that the PL would allow Tevez to play those last 3 matches.

Basically a 2nd crime has been committed and Scudamore spoke on SSN 2 years ago stating that if any evidence was uncovered to show that there was another doubt regards the Tevez registration then the PL would re-open their investigations file and look and giving a further punishment to WHUFC.

The silence from the PL is deafening. Basically Tevez played those last 3 matches of the season illegally. It would appear that WHUFC have continuously had no regard for the rules. A neutral person would say that the second crime is much more worse that the first crime, so logic would suggest that WHUFC may yet be relegated.

By A neutral. Posted October 5 2008 at 10:46 AM.

West Ham shouldn`t be fined 1p - they should be demoted to league 2, put on -30 points as Luton were and Sheff Utd should take their place with last seasons play off losers moving up to level the leagues.

By fedupwithbeingtakenforaride. Posted October 5 2008 at 10:51 AM.

I am a millwall so hate the hammers but s/u went down cos they where not good enough END of deal with it and stop crying like little girls

By JOE. Posted October 5 2008 at 10:35 AM.

Funny how Sheffield Utd only started moaning when they wasted a 10 pt lead and also after they beat West Ham 3-0 when Tevez played for the Hammers.Tevez wasn't the only reason West Ham stayed up as Noble,Green,Zamora and even Reo Choker decided to wake up and play football.The Premiership fined West Ham 5.5million so Sheffied Utd should sue the Premiership and not West Ham.

By John from Essex. Posted October 5 2008 at 10:33 AM.

Unbelievable!
Anyone defending West Ham must be completely mad. How can you possible support a club, fined for cheating, who then continued to cheat for a second time and lied to the FA to cover their tracks.
Sheff Utd are the victims of the crime and therefore fully entitled to compensation.
West Ham have been court out, how can anyone including their many fans defend them.
Had it not been Sheff Utd it would have been whoever else had gone down. Dave Whelan of Wigan would most certainly have taken action.
West Ham should hold their hands up, admit they cheated in a most dreadful manner, pay up and thank their lucky stars they are still in the prem. league.
I challenge 1 single West ham fan to admit what they did was wrong. Also admit cheating for a second time and lying was actually worse than the crime they were charged 5.5 mil. for.
If you can't admit this, then you are even worse than I and most of the world currently think.

By Roger the Blade. Posted October 5 2008 at 10:21 AM.

just like to say all the best to the pigs hope u get every penny hammers cheated hope warnock and players also claim up the owls

By foggy. Posted October 5 2008 at 10:12 AM.

yes we broke the rules but lets get one thing clear we did not decide the punishment it was the Premier League. I've always said right from day one this has only ever been about money and This pathetic claim has once and for all killed any pretence that this was ever about fairness and justice.

By Larry - S. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:59 AM.

One question for Hammers fans:

If your chief exec writes to the Premier League saying "all third party deals are now cancelled" while at THE SAME TIME saying to Joorabchian in front of witnesses "Don't worry we will honour all the deals", how is that not cheating???

Just read the text of the judgement, not the rubbish spouted by West Ham supporting journalists!

West Ham cheated for a second time and should be punished for a second time - and not by a derisory £5 million fine. Look at Luton, Rotherham etc for the appropriate punishment - Premier League get your act together and honour the letter sent to all clubs at the time of the last judgement

By Andrew. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:57 AM.

if the PL had the strength to make what was glaringly the correct decision in the first place and deduct points then there wouldn't be this mess. As they didn't and as it has now come to light that West Ham LIED AGAIN to the Premier League by telling them that the 3rd party agreement had been torn up so Tevez was cleared to play for the rest of the season why shouldn't sheffield united be compensated. Everyone says Sheffield United should look at their own performances over the season but they were good enough to stay up over 38 games, West Ham without Tevez weren't! having everything decided on the pitch is fine - if everyone is adhering to the rules.

By alex jeffries. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:42 AM.

GREED, the blades poor performance is the real reason for their relegation!
they didn't "play to the whistle", and were caught waiting for a ruling from the power's on high that would excuse thier own lack of ambition and talent!

very sad!!!!

By marty65. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:40 AM.

The FA are to blame again, if they had imposed the correct penalty in the first place, this could have been averted.

I think you may now find that they can themselves be counter sued by WHUFC for putting them into this position, and if not I'm very surprised they haven't had a word in the shell like of Sheffield United and warning them of the consequences.

By Reg. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:36 AM.

McCabe is clearly playing a game now - and who can blame him.

West Ham are trying to riggle out of their punishment, Sheffield United are reminding them that it works both ways.

West Ham cheated and should be punished. In the end it will be settled on the quiet, for nothing like £50M.

But please, don't spill too many tears for West Ham. Being a loveable London club doesn't alter the fact that they intentionally broke the rules at somebody else's expense, even if it was an unloved northern club.

By RICHARD FOX. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:30 AM.

Boring Boring Boring, if the sheff utd chairman really thinks he is going to get £50 mill then he is deluded. At the end of the day if they beat Wigan, yes mighty Wigan on the last day of the season they would have stayed up. They didn't moan when they beat us at Bramhole Lane with Tevez in the team. £50 million could buy Sheffield ten times over including the two clubs in it, it's laughable really.

It's not going to happen, they may get a little payout but that wil be it.

By nathan. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:21 AM.

what a load of rubbish ! sheffield united didnt complain about tevez when he played for west ham against sheffield united and west ham lost 3-0, oh no. the simple fact is tevez was a registered west ham player, the simple fact is he was a known west ham player since the day he signed, the simple fact is sheffield united wasnt good enough to stay up or they would have done better in the last few games wouldnt they, the fa made a judgement, thats footballs governing body, sheffield united are selfish poor losers who know not the meaning of the word sportsmenship, they got relegated and deservedly so. it wasnt cheating, no amount of whinging and bleating from the clubs pathetic owners and fans will ever change that. the fa should now step in and ban sheffield united from ever playing in the top two tiers of football again. they cant abide by the ruling bodies decisons, and whinge and whine until they are all but promoted ! in fact if i ran the fa, id kick the dirty cheating whinging whining little tramps club out the league all together ! and im not a west ham fan or sheffield wednesday fan, im chelsea through and through, i just think what sheffield united have done is below pond dwelling levels and completely poor sportsmenship and is basically cheating !

By chelsea blue. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:20 AM.

Sheffield United went down because they won only two of their last eleven matches not because of Tevez.
Sheffield Utd went down because they were crap

By rob pocock. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:18 AM.

Sheffield Utd are a joke and this all stems from the incredibly bitter Neil Warnock and has carried on to MaCabe who is only firing the gun that Warnock loaded!
Do they really think they are a big Premier League team? And lets face it, even if we had been relegated and they had stayed up, they wouldn't have lasted another season and would have been relegated so now they are looking for an easy pay out and someone to blame other than their lack lustre, tired, pathetic players/team that have no soul, no fight and no passion to want to remain in the Premiership!
The Irons are a Premiership side through and through and deserve to be there.

By JC Hammerette. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:13 AM.

I hope they do get fined 50 mil. They tried to cheat for their own good ( for a load of money ) and they didn't get away with it boo hoo. So now they need to pay the price !!! Cmon Super Chelsea !!!!!!!

By Chelsea Blue. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:14 AM.

Why cant Sheff Utd just admit that they weren't good enough over the 38 games which was why they went down? £50M is absurd. They might as well claim £100M !!

By Penelope. Posted October 5 2008 at 9:03 AM.

Congratulations to K McCabe and Sheffield United.
At last it seems that justice will partly be done.
Ultimately West Ham were caught not only cheating, but lying and withholding evidence, a very serious offence.
This kind of behaviour must be rooted out of football. West Ham must be made to pay and if that forces them into administration then all the better.

By Hughie. Posted October 5 2008 at 8:51 AM.

"Its greed" they scream. "It shouldnt be allowed" they moan. "Not good enough to stay up" they whine. Oh dear oh dear oh dear, when will they look at the evidence ? Greed, West Ham wanted to keep their hands on the premier league cash pot, by whatever means possible. Shouldnt be allowed, like 3rd party ownership and lying to the premier league ? Not good enough to stay up, Westham without Tevez that would be then ? Enlighten yourselves and read the evidence from the final tribunal, it makes fantastic reading for any football supporter. Then ask yourselves...Will this end with a little compensation payout ? There is a storm comming to English football and everyone with there hand in the pot is likely to feel the force of it.
Kevin McCabe wont rest, his faithfull thousands wont rest, justice will be done, even if the whole house of cards falls with with it. So be it !

By bouncingbabyblade. Posted October 5 2008 at 8:37 AM.

Ok maybe 50million is an unrealistic figure but the fact is that west ham cheated and it cost sheffield united their place in the premier league, they also lied to the premier league TWICE so they should be punished and i don't mean the £5.5 million punishment because that was a joke!

If it had happened to any other team they would be doing the same.

Sheffield united deserve the £30 million.

By Tevez. Posted October 5 2008 at 8:39 AM.

This has got so out of hand it is 'unbelivable' Sheffield United should just concentrate on trying to get out of the championship and not blame one person for the poor season they had when getting relegated..... Give it a rest McCabe it is getting very boring Just like watching Sheffield United really !

By Glenn Hawkins. Posted October 5 2008 at 8:14 AM.

where will it stop, should Bolton now be suing Man Utd because of the penalty that never was ,if they are relegated

By hammerithome. Posted October 5 2008 at 7:08 AM.

The insufferably boring and hate-addled Kevin McCabe has now proved to the world, "beyond doubt", that he is indeed an infantile fantasist to be pitied. How on earth are West Ham United responisble for ANY of the things he accuses them of?

Tevez was cleared TWICE by the PL, who further emphasised that he had always been correctly registered with the club. Even a five-year-old can see that the speculative, hypothetical drivel since spouted by the tribunal concerning just how many points one player is worth in a team sport would be thrown out of a proper court in ten seconds flat anyway. How on earth did Tevez influence the overall points tally of Sheffield United? Did he play against them 38 times? (Actually, he played against them once, and West Ham lost 3-0). How can West Ham be made responsible for the poor performances of Sheffield United throughout the season? It was UNARGUABLY those performances and results that proved to be the CHIEF reason for their relegation, and not some mind-shrinking rubbish about the exact impact one LEGALLY REGISTERED player had on a fellow team.

That irrelevant argument aside, how on earth can West Ham now be accused of influencing Sheffield United's performances in the Championship? It's laughable rubbish manufactured by risible logic...

By STAG. Posted October 5 2008 at 2:56 AM.

Some very daft comments here.

Decisions were made on the basis of the Premier League but civil courts can review the impact of illegal action upon companies.

The 'appy 'ammers have cheated. Sheffield United would have achieved at least £30m from staying up and possibly could have stayed up another season or more.

This is the effect money has on sport.

By Arfur Dinari. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:56 AM.

Time for West Ham to get a simple High Court injuction on the tribunal continuing. Get a Judge to block the proceedings. End!! Legally, a nice road block to further progress from Sheffield United and maintains the High Court position that the original tribunal should be the only tribunal!!!

Watch and learn!!!

By Steve Gerde. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:17 AM.

I'm a Middlesbrough fan myself so I won't be favouring either team in this problem but does anyone else agree that Sheffield are taking this a bit too far?

It's not as if they would of actually survived in the premiership anyway. West Ham recieved their punishment and that case should be closed.

By Nemo. Posted October 5 2008 at 1:14 AM.

MaCabe your a joke... a sick joke , gready & nothing more. YOU agreed to the first hearing & to the FACT that once that was done THAT was it finished...But oh wait you did'nt get 'justice' ! Im sorry but in other case's like this teams have been docked 1 or 2 points and find less.
No one else's fult that you went down other than YOURS, YOUR CRAP MANAGER & YOUR CRAP TEAM !
YES West Ham board @ that time DID do wrong and the new board were very open about it & THEY wanted it sorted. Now your out to ruin the game as a hole you and that twot from Wigwm (whos been done for price fixing,breaking rugby league rules etc...) realy should be done for bringing the game in to disrepute ! I supose the good thing is the more you go on (& get more gready) the more you show your self for what you realy are !

By Claret & Blue. Posted October 5 2008 at 12:41 AM.

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