We have obtained the X-rated recording of the entire Arsenal shareholders' meeting in which the most successful manager in the club's history came under savage attack.
Shocked Wenger branded some of the venomous questions "disgraceful" - then refused to deny he had held talks with Real president-elect Florentino Perez.
Angry shareholders slated Wenger for:
Striker Emmanuel Adebayor was also branded ARROGANT and a DIVER who should be sold, while some shareholders claimed the players don't care about the club.

Here's how the exchange went...
WENGER: The vibes around the team are very negative but with the policy we've gone for with a young team, to finish in the position we have is not a shame.
I'm very proud of the team and I regret that, from the first day of the season, we had negative vibes around the team. It was the most energy-demanding season because we had to support the team against all the odds.
We lost Gallas, Adebayor, Fabregas and Rosicky to injury and lost Flamini and Hleb (transferred) and we suddenly lost the whole midfield, experience wise, and had to completely rebuild it.
SHAREHOLDER: It's about time the players took responsibility for their poor performances. They seem to be very despondent if something goes wrong, they don't seem to get up and fight.
WENGER: We play in the best league in the world and you do not stay 21 games unbeaten if you do not fight. What they have done in a negative environment shows they will stand up and take responsibility. It's my job to take the blame.

SHAREHOLDER: I don't believe we've got a player who's capable of being captain.
WENGER: Maybe we have too many captains as we've had nine this year, but I believe in shared leadership. Fabregas is a good captain.
SHAREHOLDER: You were quoted as saying, 'We live in a league where divers are rewarded'. Do you accept Emmanuel Adebayor is a perpetrator of the diving scam and many supporters feel his lack of commitment and arrogance would make him somebody you ought to dispose of in the summer?
WENGER: I do not agree. Adebayor's a great player who has done fantastically for the club.
SHAREHOLDER: A lot of us feel he doesn't bring great credit to this club and we wouldn't be sad if he was to go.
WENGER: If players don't do well, it is because they have lost confidence. But the best way to help a guy is to support him. Slaughtering him does not help.
SHAREHOLDER: It's very difficult to understand how we lost five international midfielders - including injured Rosicky. How did you think we could compete in the Premier League having lost those players? I just don't understand your mindset.
Also, I can't understand the swapping of Senderos with Silvestre. It seems totally against your philosophy to allow a 23-year-old centre-half to go and bring in a geriatric. Silvestre has been unfit for half of the season.

WENGER: I do not accept the statements you make about our players. Are you a shareholder?
SHAREHOLDER: Yes.
WENGER: You should not use these terms. You should see him in training every day. And I can't understand how we lost five internationals?
SHAREHOLDER: I'm including Diarra.
WENGER: Who are the other four?
SHAREHOLDER: Rosicky (who has been injured all season), Hleb, Flamini and Gilberto.
WENGER: Gilberto played 13 games last year. He is 33.
SHAREHOLDER: Yes, but we still lost that experience.
WENGER: We did not know Rosicky would not be available and we did not want Flamini nor Hleb to go. After three years a player over 28 can buy out his contract. Hleb requested a transfer and we could not stop him.
SHAREHOLDER: But how could you not bring in replacements?
WENGER: Because we had plenty of young players. If you don't play the young players you will lose them. They will show you they are great players. What I don't like is you saying I am wrong to play them.
SHAREHOLDER: If you had to pick out a couple of things you did right this season, and a couple you did wrong, what would they be?
WENGER: I work every day thinking about what can I do better.You make 100 decisions - only a fool would say he doesn't make mistakes. We all do.
That we have no trophies to present today, I'm very sorry. But the exciting thing is that, with me or without me, the future of this club is great.
What saddens me is that everyone believes the team is bad.

SHAREHOLDER: What was the logic in not picking Arshavin for the FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea when he wasn't eligible for the Champions League semi-final?
WENGER: To give the team confidence to beat Chelsea and bring Arshavin on if needed, and the team would know it could win big games, but it didn't work.
SHAREHOLDER: What extent do you consider trophies and medals to be the be-all and end-all?
WENGER: I want to win trophies, but you cannot survive a long time as a club without a style of play. Today, Arsenal is hugely respected, with a massive reputation all over the world. But the smallest respect we have is here in England!
If I say, 'Today we will buy a £70m player', everyone is happy. But if we don't win, people ask, 'Why?'
But what this team has done, with the average age it has now, no team has done that. It's important to support the team.
SHAREHOLDER: Is there money to buy anyone?
WENGER: Yes. Who I buy is difficult because if you name a player, you pay double. We are not rich enough to do that. But we will buy.
SHAREHOLDER: We have some great footballers in defence, but they don't seem well drilled. Would you consider giving Tony Adams or Martin Keown a coaching role here?
WENGER: If we had a weakness this year it was defensively because, offensively, we performed well.
SHAREHOLDER: At Man United in the Champions League, you saw the way we defended the corner which led to their goal. The whole back four left three players unmarked, while Adebayor just wandered off.
WENGER: He's a striker, he was looking to get forward and score.
SHAREHOLDER: Isn't it the job of the coaches to make sure, when we're defending, a player the size of Adebayor is marking?
WENGER: Do you really think you work 25 years in football but don't tell these things to your players? You have to accept mistakes. With that goal I agree with you, it was a problem of concentration, but when a player is offensive-minded he can make this kind of mistake.
SHAREHOLDER: I've been mystified at the number of times players have been played out of position. Why don't you play them where they are best suited?
WENGER: You ask players where they want to play and they say in the middle. But you cannot play everyone there.
SHAREHOLDER: It's disheartening when you see players who don't seem to care. When we lose, you're lucky if the players acknowledge the fans.
WENGER: I'm very sorry. You're right. If players don't do it after a loss, it's because they are ashamed.
SHAREHOLDER: Nicklas Bendtner went to a nightclub (after Arsenal's Champions League defeat to United) while our fans were crying their eyes out, he was drinking £500 bottles of champagne.
WENGER: But that doesn't mean he doesn't care. People work every day on the pitch, and think day and night about what they do. They care about the club and want to do well.
These players are good and if you don't believe in them, you will regret it one day.
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God forrbid arsenal goes on relegation,i will go with them,the manager knows what he and the rest of the coaching crew are doing,if it is not working out now does not me it will not work out in the shortest period of time.Those making noise are not arsenal faithful,they can join other clubs as our manager has decided to make changes at the defence line,re-arrange the midfield and probably a change in the front.GUNNERS FOR LIFE. olabode soyinka
By soyinka olabode.. Posted June 28 2009 at 8:36 PM.
The fact is these trophies are difficult to win their comes times where certain teams hit purple patches man utd have hit their recently between 04 till the present you could argue arsenal had their in the early parts of the new millenium and liverpool have had theirs in the 80's but wenger has the right mind set and if he keep these young players fit and interested in arsenal football their purple patch will reignite and once they win one major trophy the conidence will be re-installed into the club as an entire and you will notice huge changes in the squad. Just if you see once united lose one major match their confidence will be knowcked their sails will go down and it will be some other teams chance to take over english football for a while. its a cycle of events that happen and it takes patience and correct timing to conquer what is on top.
By ALAN.. Posted May 26 2009 at 6:39 PM.
WHAT A JOKE!
half them shareholders clearly dont know the first thing about football.
suddenly all the arsenal glory hunters come crawling out of the woodwork because we havnt won anything.
well if they want to slate the manager, moan at the players and argue that we should have bought bigger then maybe they would be better suited to supporting a club like man city. arsene may make mistakes, but at least his mistakes dont cost £100s of millions, wait and see what happens next year when city still dont crack the top 4 and we are on the brink of success.
Hughes will walk, their consortium will spend another hundred million, and all our clueless share holders will be saying how amazing wenger is.
wenger has the backing of true gooners.
Arsene Knows.
By jake.. Posted May 25 2009 at 12:06 PM.
The peopel that are shouting are fake Arsenal supporters,if they are tired they can go to other team like m'unt,liver,chela 4 God sake and leave my great manager Arsene Wanger alone. I have been an Arsenal fan 4 yrs now and seem noting wrong with them, the problem we are having are our shareholders not our manager. They should spent their money on players and wait 4 Wanger to delivery them to the trophias next season! Guners 4 live. Johnmark 4rm Nigeria.
By Johnmark 4rm Nigeria... Posted May 25 2009 at 10:08 AM.
Shareholder have a right to ask questions, weather or not manager likes the tone.
Arsene is the best manager around, but i feel he is more interested in running the club. He should be more interested in running the team, if he needs players he should get them and let the chairman worry finances
By wesley coyne.. Posted May 24 2009 at 9:31 PM.
I dont know what has happened to Arsenal fans these days, the slating of the manager, the booing of our own players, you are supposed to be supporters, if you cant get that right what chance has the team got. i just hope that these idiots are a minority and decide to support (if thats what you can call it) someone else, so that the manager and players alike get the backing and appreciation they deserve from the real fans. Ooh to be a gooner!
By Gareth.. Posted May 24 2009 at 5:34 PM.
I have been wondering for the past 2 years whether Arsene Wenger is in reality a trophy -winning manager. My conclusion is that he is not.
The aggrieved shareholders have asked reasonable questions while Arsene Wenger failed to answer some of the questions and/or answered unintelligently (i.e. no iota of intelligence).
When an experienced player quits Arsenal, Arsene Wenger is fond of promoting a young player who lacks experience, into that position. The fact remains that, in football, experience counts a lot. Experience is the best teacher. Kids cannot win you games or trophies.
A corollary to the above is the unacceptable transfer policy of Wenger. The policy is entirely wrong. Look at Man United, Giggs and Scholes are in their 30s. The young ones are learning from them. You don't abandon or ignore experience for inexperience.
Where a player fails to perform day in day out, it simply suggests that the player is not good. Adebayo scored about 30 goals last season, but thanks to the efforts of Fabregas, Rosicky, Flamini and Hleb who created the chances. Moreso, if a player could perform in a particular season and cannot the following season, then he is not good. Wenger should sell him, then go out for an experienced striker.
We need about 3 experienced players in that team. We need experienced holding midfielder, striker and defender.
By Bamise.. Posted May 24 2009 at 2:17 PM.
I dont personally understand how Arsenal's shareholders and fans can be so disappointed. Wenger makes a very good point that the teams you finished behind in the league are all world class teams. Man Utd are probably the best in the world, Chelsea would have been in the Champs league final if they hadnt conceded so late and Liverpool went out of the Champs league to Chelsea. We're talking about the biggest competition in Europe here with the top four English clubs featuring in the later stages. To lose in the semi final is disapointing but getting there was quite an achievement and Utd would have beaten most teams anyway. Also, losing in the semi final of the F.A cup to Chelsea is nothing to be ashamed of either. As for replacing Wenger, who would you possibly get to replace him? There are no managers available that would be able to do the job that he has done, if he were to be replaced you would end up with the same situation you have at Chelsea where they have a new manager every year because no-one is getting the results. I think you all forget that before Wenger you were a second rate side and it was he who turned you into a Championship winning side. I think the fans that are whinging should act like real supporters and get behind their club instead of complaining about how bad you are. If thats your opinion then you obviously have a very limited knowledge of football.
By Mark.. Posted May 24 2009 at 10:13 AM.
lets be honest over the last ten years or so we have been spoilt,we were top dogs,have faith, as they say win ,lose, or draw still a gooner,have supported the team over 40 years through thick and thin,imagine how it was in the 70s and 80s when the great liverpool ere was in full swing,when you would travel to anfield get a draw and it was like a win,all will come good,yes there was some frustrating times last season but have faith,it will return and soon,wenger is the greatest manager the club has ever had,the foundations of the club and team on a whole are rock solid,can the same be said about the other 3 from the so called big four,i think not,we'll be on the march very soon.
keep the flag flyin, there's only one arsene wenger.
in arsene we trust,keep the faith.
By jayjay;edmonton gooner.. Posted May 24 2009 at 10:07 AM.
While Wenger is lookin out for good and intellegent strikers, why can't him train Walcott. Walcott can be a potential striker, he has the qualities and potentials in him.
I think all he needs to know is how to manupulate in the 18 yrd box. You find out that most of his balls are wasted. He shouldn't be selfish though.
Gibbs can also be trained to be come a good midfielder. He is performing in the defence, but not too strong to prevent conceeding goals from his wing. As it has been evidenced in most recent games. The youngstars are really doing a good job, but they need finishers of the job.
By Tamba Emmanuel Foyoh.. Posted May 24 2009 at 10:02 AM.
Wenger is a great manager but his problem is that he does not respect for finals. It could be noted that he fields in the wrong team when it comes to final.
It looks annoying for him to have left out Arshavin during the FA Cup simi final with Chelsea.
As for the Exercutives. You need to give a strong support to Wenger, financially for him to buy quality players. Arsenal needs very good and intellegent strikers. Someone who can make a quick and good judgement while in the 18 yrd box.
Selling players is not a good option for Arsenal. By so doing the team has handicapped itself by selling quality players like Herb, Flaminni and so many others.
We the fans here fines it very difficult to argue out any defeat. Becouse, we are being labelled as a business club. Always ready to sell the up coming stars. Arsenal did not win any cup for the passed few years simply because, the Cup is not throphy focused, but how to make money out of the players.
Some of us envy Man United but they have a focus, and that is to make history which they've made. Renaming Manchester as the "City of Throphys".
When will North London be called the City of throphys, When?
Is like some one needs to wake Arsenal "Bosses" from their slumber. "Wake up every Arsenal exercutives and give throphys next season". You score the fisrt goal by buying Quality players this summer, then leave the rest on the pitch for the players to bring the "Cups".
By Tamba Emmanuel Foyoh.. Posted May 24 2009 at 9:42 AM.
Wenger is a great manager but his problem is that he does not respect for finals. It could be noted that he fields in the wrong team when it comes to final.
It was annoying for him to have left out Arshavin during the FA Cup simi final with Chelsea.
As for the Exercutives. You need to give a strong support to Wenger, financially for him to buy quality players. Arsenal needs very good and intellegent strikers. Someone who can make a quick and good judgement while in the 18 yrd box.
Selling players is not a good option for Arsenal. By so doing the team has handicapped itself by selling quality players like Herb, Flaminni and so many others.
We the fans here fines it very difficult to argue out any defeat. Becouse, we are being labelled as a business club. Always ready to sell the up coming stars. Arsenal did not win any cup for the passed few years simply because, the Cup is not throphy focused, but how to make money out of the players.
Some of us envy Man United but they have a focus, and that is to make history which they've made. Renaming Manchester as the "City of Trophys".
When will North London be called the City of trophys, When?
Is like some one needs to wake Arsenal "Bosses" from their slumber. "Wake up every Arsenal exercutives and give throphys next season". You score the fisrt goal by buying Quality players this summer, then leave the rest on the pitch for the players to bring the "Cups".
By Tamba Emmanuel Foyoh.. Posted May 24 2009 at 9:45 AM.
1.I agree that the shareholders have a right to pose questions.However, the fans have even more right to pose questions. The issue here is how the questions were put. It came across like an inquisition
2. People keep going on about 'letting Hleb,Flamni and Gilberto leave'. Flamini was at the end of his contract, we could not make him sign a new one.From what I understand he was not happy about being used as a utility player in our champions league final year and then losing his place to Cole for the final. Also the only reason he came to hold down amidfield place was Diaby was injured
Gilberto had become to look slow in the new dynamic arsenal team and with only 13 games previously the decision was right
Hleb asked to leave and had we not sold him would have been able to buy his contract out.
Those who ponder why we did not replace them adequately, my info is we tried but were not successful, Inler was definitely on the radar but did not want to come (remember these players have children in school etc and sometimes the timing is not right)
By WONDERMAN.. Posted May 24 2009 at 9:09 AM.
It's not Arsene's fault that he can't go out to the transfer market and bring a player worth 20 million etc, the so called BOARD MEMBERS are the ones responsible for this. I think most of them are money grabbing individuals, what happend to the lockdown agreement? Danny Fishan ogoes off and sales his shares to Kroenke:
<blockquote>American tycoon Stan Kroenke has increased his stake in Arsenal to just over 20%, at a cost of £42.5m.
He has purchased 5,000 ordinary shares at £8,500 apiece from fellow Gunners director Danny Fiszman.
<blockquote/>
Now wasn't this after the lockdown agreement was introduced?
Secondly Lady Nina being told off to get a hike, what happened there?
As you can see there is something definitely going on behind the scenes and the BORAD MEMBERS should be taking the stick here not Arsene.
Sadly those money grabbing board members don't seem to be interested with what is going on the pitch and where money needs to be spent, we were always told we have the money to bring in world class players, somehow this is not the case as everyone would think. They look after themselves more these days than the club!
By Arthur The Gooner.. Posted May 24 2009 at 7:56 AM.
I am a liverpool supporter, but my heart mellows when I see Arsenal play, they are number one, in the field of playmaking. If Wenger go Arsenal will lose it's stability, and power. and it will become a middle table team.Think ahead the self investment wenger did in the team is all money saved in the bank.If shareholders have money to burn they need to learn that hard work and vision are the key to success. lorry fabri malta
By lorry fabri.. Posted May 24 2009 at 7:45 AM.
They were so called fans, the problem is he has won alot since he joined the club , so the club attracts so called fans just because the club is succesful . The in thing tro wear an Arsenal shirt ,so when we start not winning hings they get annoyed. Also football manager doesn't help because they think they are better managers than Wenger.
By steven johnson.. Posted May 24 2009 at 7:02 AM.
some fans seem to think that arsenal was only formed when the premiership was formed. nouveau football supporters are shameful and unfortunately arsenal seem to have the most of them. i blame nick hornby myself.
By rellends.. Posted May 24 2009 at 3:01 AM.
The shareholders were asking the questions most of us fans would have ask if we were in that meeting. most of the questions were correct to ask , since the great back four of Tony Adams and company retired, wenger have not replace them with anyone with greatness, how could he let Hleb, Flamini and Gilberto go in the same summer? the last 5 season he as let players over 30 leave the club because he refused to give then a 2 yr contract and they have gone on to win trophies with other european teams and we have won nil in that time and now he is asking us to wait another 2 yrs for this team to start winning trophies. I think the fans and shareholders have all rights to questions why it will take 7 yrs for us to win a trophy! how quick we forget wenger first 5 season at arsenal most of the players he use to win all his trophies were George graham players, seaman , the back 4 , dennis, wrighty ,ray and others..
By chris fletcher.. Posted May 24 2009 at 3:26 AM.
First of all, karl nosugref get a grip you are one of the ever grown number of "Part time" Arsenal fans or the Thierry Henry fans! we don't need band wagon fans like Man united! you either a true gooner or not...
Arsenal fans have to realize Arsene Wenger is the worlds best manager AND Business man! through his 13 years at the club he has brought in great talent for little or nothing won trophies increased the profile of our great club and financially has put us as one of the richest clubs in the world and after all that gets rid of the players before they are worth nothing, without him we would not be where we are today!
On transfers, Arsene has not had the financial backing as Chelsea, man united, liverpool or even man city have had. yet we are still in the top 4, got to the semi finals of the champions league and the FA cup with a team that has cost 25% the total of united or chelsea's first XI. £55 million total for our first teamXI..
We are building for the future. we still own our club, it aint bought as a hobby for some billionaire like the other top clubs. when the emirates is payed off which is why we sell our players for profit, the sooner the loan on the stadium is payed the lower the interest is. when payed off we will be the most financially stable football club in england!! And all this is down to the man that is been pushed and bullied out of our club. if we lose him we lose everything!
IN ARSENE WE TRUST!!
By Aron Glynn .. Posted May 24 2009 at 3:19 AM.
Disgraceful! I feel sorry for Arsene. He deserves so much more respect than he got from these people. Arsenal are on the way up and with players such as Jay Thomas, Jack Wilshere, Sanchez Watt, Conquelin, Vela, Ramsey all looking to break into the first team the future is very, very bright. Give Arsene the time and support he deserves. We will be rewarded in the long run. Or force him out! It's what all the Spurs fans would love because we'd be joining them in mid-table fight for sure.
By Ken.. Posted May 24 2009 at 2:29 AM.
yes it is a great club and always has been. But their seems to be a new breed of supporter rearing its head at arsenal, i have never in all my time as an arsenal supporter witnessed the shameful booing of one of our players, a player who gives 100% every game he plays it was well out of order!! how can you compare the top three with us. How much money have they spent on their teams let alone the players sitting on the bench. Arsene Wenger is building a team not experimenting with one. Our team is respected across europe as a great footballing team, we are full of potential and talent. I agree abit more experience is needed to bring the younsters on, with a couple of good additions in the summer alot of so called gooners will be eating their words. Win lose or draw arsenal 4ever.
By sean.. Posted May 24 2009 at 1:38 AM.
Karl Nosugref U say we are tired of getting fourth, we came third last year and could haave won it.
Also to those idiots who say Wenger should spend the money, dont even know how much we have to spend.
Peter Hillwood always comes out and says we have lots and lots of money, but this all seems to be a lie, and we dont have as much money to spend like United, Chelsea and Liverpool.
If this team is soo crap then how did they get to the champions league semi final, Fa cup semi, went 21 games without loosing in the premier league.
All for large parts of the season without Fabrigas, Adebuyor, Walcott, Almunia, Clicchy, Gallas, Rosiky and Eduardo.
Add a few experienced players and we will be realy realy good next season.
By A=Arsenal.. Posted May 24 2009 at 1:31 AM.
I think shareholder have gone too far with this type of question to professor. if u loose a grate manager like wenger they are the one to surfer because all there share will fall due to lack of money but now they can talk because arsenal share has gone up in the last couples of yrs. Though wenger is partly to blamed arsenal season because he is not strong enough to deal with his players. He ned to let them realised that players should put more effort in the field.
By babashow.. Posted May 24 2009 at 1:03 AM.
Wenger handled the questions correctly. He's right: the defence needs improvement. Adebayor needs to concentrate. No one can predict injuries.
The shareholder has the right to ask questions, certainly. But it bordered on an inquisition and it seemed that the tone had more to do with making Wenger wrong than in being fair, right, or balanced. Frankly, though it isn't a crime, the inquisitor was rude.
We're not far away. We've acquired experience this year; we'll buy experience in advance of next year.
This will be an interesting summer transfer-wise.
Trust in Wenger and not, as they say in America, in armchair quarterbacks.
Cheers
By Weasel.. Posted May 24 2009 at 12:49 AM.
The manager should buy reputable experienced players which are respected by the oponents and blend them with the youngesters.We do not want to be told to believe in a team that plays for five without a trophy, Wenger has been breeding average and under archivers.The quality of the bench of Man U,Chelsea and Liverpool compared to that one of Arsenal ,one can easily conclude that Wenger is not a serious contender of the League title and Euro Champs.Experimenting year in and year out does not help anyone but rather brings agony to fans of this great club.
By Enos SAGANDIRA.. Posted May 24 2009 at 12:57 AM.
to nabil, you mean you've had enough! well i suggest you go and support chelsea or man u then. I have supported arsenal for over 30 years and wenger is the best manager we have ever had, give the man some credit for what he has done during his time here. we need to support our team and manager, if you cant do that then jog on.......
By sean.. Posted May 24 2009 at 12:41 AM.
Why are you shouting?
By Adom Marrast.. Posted May 24 2009 at 12:25 AM.
wengers right, hes building up a solid team for the future, those shareholders should just keep their mouths shut. Hes been at arsenal for ages and yet when they are on there way to having a really solid team, everyone begins to doubt wenger. He is a quality manager, and those shareholders should just wait and see, this man really is a genius. And this message is from a united fan!!!
But really they should give him time and he will be one of the great managers, if he went to madrid he would be forgotten.
By karl nosugref.. Posted May 24 2009 at 12:08 AM.
I THINK SHAREHOLDERS WERE RIGHT TO ASK ALL THOSE QUESTION,WE HAD ENOUGH PLAYING FOR 4 PLACE,THERE IS ALWAYS MONEY TO SPEND BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WENGER IS GOING TO SPEND HIS OWN MONEY TYPICAL FRENSH?????????????????//
By nabil yahiaoui.. Posted May 23 2009 at 11:41 PM.