What your £166k benefit a year buys single Afghan mum-of-seven
But she moans the house it too big to heat!
WELCOME to the amazing luxury world of the Afghan benefits family in the £1.2million mansion.
And we can reveal that despite having a home groaning with state of the art goodies, they are STILL moaning—because they can't afford a trip to meet Mickey Mouse.
Afghan mother-of-seven Toorpakai Saiedi already pulls in a staggering £13,901 of handouts every month in rent and living allowances, but complained: "I'd like to take the children on holiday to Disneyland Paris but I can't afford it."
Saiedi, 35, insisted she is even too broke to have satellite TV and pay water and gas bills because the huge seven-bedroom detached house laid on by taxpayers in Acton, west London, costs too much to heat and run.
Yet wandering through her home is like stepping into a glossy Argos catalogue of must-have gadgets and furnishings:
CENTREPIECE of the spacious lounge is the family's pride and joy—an incredible 50-inch flatscreen PLASMA TELEVISION worth £1,500 which dominates the room. Quizzed on how they could possibly afford the TV, 20-year-old son Jawad—who has never worked—claimed: "I got it cheap off a friend a year or so ago."
HOOKED up to the set is a £180 NINTENDO Wii console complete with extra games costing £40 each.
SCATTERED around are a dozen beautifully-made SILK CUSHIONS so the kids can watch the latest cartoons in comfort.
Luxury
ANOTHER smaller TV is sited in the second reception room—with a £300 PLAYSTATION 3 connected to it. Lying nearby are five more games, also around £40 each.
OTHER games dotted around the house match a handheld NINTENDO DS which retails for about £100.
JAWAD has TWO MOBILE PHONES including a sought after iPHONE, priced £500 new. Although they can be had as an upgrade phone for £100, users still have to pay a £35-a-month contract.
THEN there are the two LAPTOP COMPUTERS worth at least £350 each.
STYLISH WOODEN FLOORS are covered in red PERSIAN-STYLE RUGS and every room has a vase of fresh cut flowers.
But as controversy raged about Ealing Council and Britain's taxpayers keeping the family in the lap of luxury to the tune of a breathtaking annual total of £166,812, single mum Saiedi complained how she can't afford to shop at supermarket giant Tesco and has to rely on cut-price stores like Lidl and Netto.
"I spend £150 a week on food and my kids tell me when there are two-for-one offers at the shops," she told us. "But by the end of the week there is no money left. It's a big house and costs a lot to run. It's difficult making it all work. And we don't have Sky TV."
Jawad, wearing a Tommy Hilfiger designer shirt and acting as interpreter for his mother, moaned that the property was much smaller than the massive house they used to have in Afghanistan.
He said: "Our house there was huge compared to this one. We laugh at this house and would give this space to chickens to walk around in a cage."
The upmarket doublefronted house boasts two reception rooms, two fitted kitchens, a breakfast room, seven double bedrooms and three shower rooms spread over three floors. Saiedi, who has three girls and four boys aged eight to 22 and has split from their father Haji, sat barefoot on one of the two luxurious leather sofas, matched by four armchairs, in her front room as she explained the family finances. The regal-looking suite came with the fully refurbished house, as did all the fixtures and fittings.
In the basement there is even a huge safe, left behind by the last occupants.
Saiedi, who received no payment for this interview, claimed she would like to get a job but said her life was just too busy taking the children to and from school and shopping to feed her family. She also attends English classes three days a week. She said: "One day my boys will get good jobs and they will be able to sort out my debts." She confessed she has clocked up debts on a CREDIT CARD—granted by a bank despite the fact she has NO JOB —but refused to say how much. She admitted there is an outstanding water bill from two months ago of £530.
Benefit
"I can't afford to pay it," she said. "The interest rate on the credit card is also very high. We used to have a small car, a 10-year-old Nissan Almera, but we had to sell it because we needed the money."
Saiedi explained that she receives £213 a week in child tax credit, £60 in child benefit plus £60 income support. But the family's biggest handout coup is their massive £12,458 a month rent, paid direct by the council to landlord Ajit Panesar.
He bought the property in March for £1.2 million. Yet if Ealing Council had got a mortgage to buy the house themselves the cost would only be about £8,100 a month.
Instead they must cough up the full amount to which Mr Panesar is legally entitled under the discredited Local Housing Allowance Scheme.
Furious Work and Pensions Secretary James Purnell has launched an urgent inquiry and vowed to close any loopholes. And Ealing Council has already sacked three officers involved in rehousing the family.
Back in Afghanistan, Saiedi's husband was in business supplying the government army. He fled the Taliban and won political asylum here in 2001, followed by his family.
They first lived in a four-bed house in Enfield but as the children got older they were rehoused 2 years ago in a five-bed property up the road in Ealing. Ten weeks ago they landed the mansion.
Saiedi, smartly dressed in polka-dot skirt and top, white jacket and black headscarf, admitted they had landed on their feet. "Life is very good," she said, "I would say we're lucky—maybe it's destiny."
Destiny
She added: "I know some people are a bit jealous of us. But I am very shocked at the rent—it's too much.
"It's a good house but not that good. I thought it was a joke when we found out how much the landlord was getting. We didn't make the deal or anything. The council offered us the house. They said go round and see it and if you like it, you can move in."
But Saiedi evaded questions about her estranged husband, and whether he was employed or helping them with finances.
Son Jawad denied his dad was working as a taxi driver but added: "We don't see very much of him—I think he was working but only for a short time." Jawad added that he has applied for a place at business college. One of his brothers, Nasir, 22, is already at Kent University and Fawad, 18, attends college.
But then, whispering so his mother couldn't hear, Jawad boasted of a terrifying secret sideline funded from the family benefits—illegal late-night street racing in souped-up cars.
"I have unofficial sponsors and they bet on me," he said. "I've raced in the back streets of Kings Cross and on the motorways.
"I love the driving and I don't make much money from it—I do it more for fun." He bragged he recently sold a black Mazda sports car on the internet for £6,000 and has other motors hidden away. "They're not here, I don't want people to see me in them," he added.
Not surprisingly his mum insists the family will NEVER return to their homeland. "This is better here," she told us. "My children all go to school and it's very good. They are learning things. If you come here with nothing the authorities will support you.
"We just had the clothes we arrived in. No money, no nothing. We are grateful to the British."
Last night the owner of the family's home insisted HE did not set the massive rent. Mr Panesar said: "I was told by Ealing Council that's what I was going to get. They advertise for properties and I rang them. They came along and said this will be the rent. I just said OK."
mark Scott
stop making ridicolous comments and start talking sense! no wonder this country is in such a state, we take people from every country and expect all us taxpayers to support them
get a grip and pay for it yourself.
By jo. Posted December 1 2008 at 1:13 PM.
Put yourselves in their shoes, if this country was completely buggered up by war and you could get to an island where you would be given a lovely house and a living wage for nothing, wouln't you not jump at the chance?
Stop complaining about your own lot and get on with it. Idiots and hypocrites the lot of you.
By Mark Scott. Posted November 30 2008 at 9:00 PM.
Earlier this year I had a Heart Attack, After paying National Insurance and Income Tax in this country for over 45yrs. I am only getting £75 per week to cover all my outgoings. I get no help with my mortgage, council tax or any other benefits. I have a 19 year old son in full-time education and a wife who works only part time!!
By Ian Sargeantson. Posted November 30 2008 at 6:18 PM.
Earlier this year I had a Heart Attack, After paying National Insurance and Income Tax in this country for over 45yrs. I am only getting £75 per week to cover all my outgoings. I get no help with my mortgage, council tax or any other benefits. I have a 19 year old son in full-time education and a wife who works only part time!!
By Ian Sargeantson. Posted November 30 2008 at 6:02 PM.
i am so angry that people from another country can come and live here and make that sort of money for doing nothing it is discusting, i work 40 hours a week and dont even make close to half that,
why the hell do they get away with it? please tell me how this woman has got away with this
By matthew harvey. Posted November 30 2008 at 4:44 PM.
i can see why they are liveing in the uk anyway and why should we help them if they dont like it tell them to go back home and why should we the tax payer pay for them to stay in that house so can this so called govermeny tell why they should used our tax to keep people like them when there are people out trying there best to keep there house this country is a joke we all like to live in a house like that but we cant so why should we pay for them to
By gary jones . Posted November 30 2008 at 3:19 PM.
I am out of the UK over in Australia at the moment. If I come back to the UK I would not get a bean from the state even after paying tax for 26 years but they give all this to immigrants. I would not get a B & B to stay in with my wife and kids if I came back. This is why I left the UK as they do not look after there own.
By C D Smith. Posted November 30 2008 at 3:53 AM.
i think that there scrounging gets and were paying for her and her 7 kids to live there they need to get a life and get a job and go bk 2 there own home if its much betta i hate people like this and the council all need 2 be shot !!!!!
By jennie clarke. Posted November 29 2008 at 11:22 PM.
HOW CAN THEY CLAIM ALL THIS.MY HUSBAND OFF WORK ,WE CLAIM THE RENT AND BENEFITS BUT THE RENT IS 200 POUND SHORT OF WHAT WE PAY (590 A MONTH )SO THE BENEFIT WE GET TO LIVE ON DOES NOT EVEN MAKE UP THE SHOTRT FALL. so money for water etc does not get paid as we don t have it .. If they get all what it says they can tell me how they do it ...............from someone going into debt
By carol. Posted November 26 2008 at 9:47 AM.
Where are the facts. This artical smacks of inciting racial hatred. Do not believe all that you read. Put yourself in someone elses shoes, imagine going to a different country, where your language is not spoken and then being lied about in the popular press. You would have no chance, everyone has made up their mind that you are a scrouncer taking their hard earned taxes. I thought we lived in a fair society, but with this dispicable lieing and scare mongoring how can ant decent human being have a chance, WE ALL LIVE UNDER THE SAME SKY!
By susan fynn. Posted November 26 2008 at 12:54 AM.
Perhaps the good hard working people of Britain should tune into Jeremy Kyle and just see what we have bred. Our taxes are being paid out in benefits to a work shy toothless generation who have kids all over the place and don't pay a penny in maintenence! What does it say in the bible 'take the log out of your own eye before you take the speck out of mine'
This is total properganda and it is inciting racial hatred. Shame on you for believing it!
By suzanne. Posted November 26 2008 at 1:06 AM.
IM LOST FOR WORDS !!!
WHILE WE ARE TAXED TO DEATH
THESE SCROUNGERS ARE LIVING THE
LIFE OF LUXURY.
FOR CHRISTS SAKE WAKE UP LABOUR
AND SMELL THE COFFEE AND LOOK AFTER
YOUR OWN PEOPLE !!!
By nelly. Posted November 25 2008 at 10:53 PM.
It's very unfair for the council not to provide the family with a luxury sedan and a handsome muslim bedmate for Ms Toorpakai Saiedi.
By Zion. Posted November 25 2008 at 8:50 PM.
The problem here is the system - And immigrants know how to play it, Yes most of the kids are old enough to move out but the rarely do,the all stay in the same address - I, like most on here have never claimed benefits since i left school 20 years ago and it sickens me that tax we have all paid over the years goes towards things like this...12k a month rent that cant be right surely??
By Lee . Posted November 25 2008 at 3:41 PM.
I'm shocked ! What kind of *******
By Giavaroto. Posted November 25 2008 at 12:55 AM.
I am 25yrs old and Iranian female. I moved here with Family since 1994.
Ever since teenager i have been working and paying tax and all our expenses along side the rest of my family. I am not English but work hard and refuse to use any type of benefits. But it makes me angry to see the money i can save and spend on my future is been used on others to live in luxurious life styles, where four of us have to share two bedrooms and we all work and still struggle. I pay over £1000 tax each month!!! i go to work 6.30 am and get home 9p??? Why should they live on my hard work?
Is just not fair! Our NHS and education still needs extra funding.
Is just Not fair!!!!
By N>A. Posted November 24 2008 at 5:04 PM.
i cant believe what i just read.......i wont believe it....its got to be a joke, im watching people around me struggle and they boast about the things they are given...The cheek to say say they would let chickens walk around in that size house back home is a kick in the teeth to tax payers...they should of been kicked out as a result of their ungratefulness...and put in a three bed house as same sex children can share....FUTHER MORE SHE SHOULD OF KEPT HER LEGS CLOSED!!!!!! This is gettting me angry just thinking about what i just read..... This is a joke, they get it handed on a plate whilst BRITISH CITEZENS must wait for years b4 even being considered a place.... Things need to change quickly, this is ridiculous!!!
By Janine. Posted November 24 2008 at 11:24 AM.
This is so frustrating. I have been paying tax for 20 years my Girlfriend moved in with me in August (increased council tax)and has recently lost her job. How much does she get nothing not a penny. She cant claim due to not enough National Insurance contributions yet she was at full time college and did not earn anything for this to be paid. Once all the Mortgage and bills are paid I have about £50 a week for food and petrol to get to work and pay more tax to the scroungers. Thats what you get for being honest. I could of said we were not a couple and rented the room they would of paid me rent and her JSA (income related) we would of been over £100 a week better off. I wonder what they will get for Christmas, im getting nothing unless her luck changes.
By Russell. Posted November 24 2008 at 12:27 AM.
Send her and the kids back to Afghanistan. and then watch her complain. I hate these types of people and the government morons that provide this stuff at our expense. time for a revolution!
By Dave Allen. Posted November 23 2008 at 8:34 PM.
How can this EVER be fair? How can a home that big be called too small?!! How ungrateful!!!
If they saw my flat they would have something to complain about...
Just like Steve said, Labour has a LOT to answer for!! What this pathetic government needs to do is pull it's finger out, stop being so bloody PC all the time and demand that immigrants to this country work for at LEAST 2 years before being offered any kind of benefits - my grandparents and parents are immigrants to this country and have worked all their lives - there is no excuse for this kind of scrounging in my opinion. You shouldn't be allowed in if you are not willing to give anything back.
If this beautiful home is not up to your picky standards (the cheek of it!) , leave and let a family who will appreciate it have it...
This has made be so angry - roll on the next general election!!!
By Keira. Posted November 23 2008 at 3:19 PM.
Labour have so much to answer for! I am speechless that a white working class man who has worked all his life in this country has a lower standard of living than these freeloaders!
By steve tea. Posted November 23 2008 at 2:41 PM.
I am LGV driver presently working on temp. job because of these credit crunch and earning £270pw after tax and if i am looking these peoples i think i am idiot!!!!!!!!1
By Gaganjit Brar. Posted November 23 2008 at 2:34 PM.
speechless!!!!!
By arlene. Posted November 23 2008 at 11:26 AM.
their rent is more than i earn a year and i work full time! i still manage to pay my mortgage and bills! get a job or go back to your country! This makes me so angry, this country is a joke!!!!
By bex. Posted November 23 2008 at 10:12 AM.
Well there not gona turn it down are they?? I dont blame them its the stupid system that allows this to happen.
By Johnny, London. Posted November 23 2008 at 5:14 AM.
P.S.
Mr Brown best sort the country out soon, or we will all be in the BROWN stuff
By Rob. Posted November 22 2008 at 11:56 AM.
I have read every single comment on this page and still cant believe that they are still living there. Obviously Brown and his stouges havent got their finger on the pulse of this once great country of ours. Perhaps we should all stop paying our taxes then see what happens, but most of us are too proud to to that as its the wrong thing to do.
I feel the money would be better spent giving our hero servicemen and women better care for injuries and stress of combat.
Mr BROWN are you listening, sort this out or you wont be in power much longer, at least you lost my vote in the next election.
By Rob. Posted November 22 2008 at 10:09 AM.
what??is that true i just read??i mean come on if they had better condintion in there why just dint stay there??i mean i can stay in another money as well but no i go and work 12 hours per day,4-5 days from 7 for i can win at least 1000 per month...and yes i pay my tax every single month and i'm not complaing at all because i'm just happy with what i have in here and for we dont forget my country (Romania)is not in a such **** condition like Afganistan ....and if they had in there country a bigger house whit better condition why the **** they came here???i mean who gone help me when i need??and in the 1st place a english person dont have some many helps like this arabic people who put bombs and war in all the world...and for we dont forget are such a great liers and actors...i know i work with few of them and i can see how we work and they just sit and get the same or more money then us.
By Maria. Posted November 20 2008 at 7:40 PM.
Yep I really do enjoy hearing about people like this living the life of luxury at our expense. Its really good to hear, so lets all chip in and pay for her and her family to go to disney world shall we oh and throw her in some extra cash to pay for her gas bills too. After all that family have probably never paid taxes in this country but get free money from good ole government (well us really) wayhey. Think all us hard workers out there are doing something wrong here. Think I'll give up my job and see if I can live like that ooh no it doesn't seem to work like that now does it.
By Mickey mouse. Posted November 20 2008 at 3:02 PM.
I FEEL THAT THEESE PEOPLE ARE VERY SELFISH IT WAS HER CHOICE TO HAVE 7 CHILDREN SO ITS HER RESPONABILITY TO CARE FOR THEM AND NOT KEEP TAKING OFF OF ARE GOVERMENT. IF THEY HAD SUCHA LOVELY BIG HOME IN AFGANISTAN THEN PISS OFF BACK.PEOPLE LIKE THIS REALLY ANNOY ME AS THYE DONT SEEM TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE HOMELESS CHILDREN&ADULTS IN ENGLAND THAT SLEEP ROUGH ON THE STREETS EACH NIGHT.I FEEL THEY SHOULD REMOVE THEM FROM THIS HOUSE AND PUT SOME PEOPEL THAT DESERVE TO BE PLACED IN HERE.
By CLAIRE. Posted November 20 2008 at 2:55 PM.
How ridiculous is this?!
I find it unbearable that there are so many scroungers in this Country anyway.
So many people have children as a way of getting a free place to live, benefits, and an easy life. But the pot is running dry! Sooner or later, the benefits will have to come to an end and they'll have to get off their lazy arses and get a job! I am at Uni and have 2 jobs. I pay tax for people like this! What would the Government do if everyone packed in their jobs and decided to claim benefits, and the nice council houses that get re-done every 6 months. This country needs sorting out and FAST.
By Kirstie. Posted November 20 2008 at 1:30 AM.
Oh dear look at this and I help pay taxes for people like this to live in luxury but we do have people living on the streets in cardboard boxes (mostly self inflicted because of drugs) That's not the point in my opinion this is absolutely disgusting and i'm really not suprised people cheat the benefit system. Bless her though she wants us to pay for her and her family to go see Mickey mouse something that most people can't afford to do even though they work hard all year and would only ever dream of. What is this country coming to? Maybe I should try get someone to pay for a holiday for me to see our Mickey because me deserves it. (Yeh right)
By Sam. Posted November 19 2008 at 9:39 PM.
many people are on benefit's. I think that if you do not have a serious medical problem which is prventing you from work you should be made to work. You should be able to go on benefit for a maximum of 8 weeks. In that 8 weeks you have to find employment. This is infact our government that allow this sort of thing to happen all over the UK.
If we are all in the credit crunch and there is a problem with the econmic's in this country maybe this family's council could look for a cheaper and more simple accomodation for them. This will cut down their bills and also the government's.
I was given my flat from the council, but I pay my own rent work full time. Yes we are all entitled to a helping hand whether you are a brit or not. My flat was not furnished that I got from my council. There was no carpet's, but hey they provided me with a tumble dryer for drying facilities (although not a washing machine ha ha).
This is the reason our country is in so much trouble.
I don't like how this family is getting blaimed, if you was offered all this by the council for free would you take it ? I know I would. It is the council's fault for making it easy. If I stayed at home and didn't work I would be better off staying at home than I am working. I earn more money. Maybe what is needed is that the National Minimum wage be raised higher so that people aren't working for peanut's and that we are better off working??
By sian. Posted November 19 2008 at 1:09 PM.
I think this is disgusting these people are getting all of our money. They just stroll over to our country and they get all of our things. The people of Britain are facing the credit crunch and cannot afford to buy anything but yet still they are living on 166k a year in a £1.2million mansion. This gets me mad and they are saying that their house in their country is way bigger then GO BACK!!!! Stop pissing around in our country and go away then...! This may sound really harsh, but i cannot live with people when they're getting a life of luxury and they are so ungrateful.
By anon. Posted November 16 2008 at 5:56 PM.
Get a grip! They are just getting what they are entitled to, the same as the thousands of British people where I live (Cardiff) living off Benefits. At least the children are going to school and University and trying to better themselves. I am not generealising but when I see all the teenage single mums, obese grandmothers and hoodie anaemic-looking chavs with 4 or 5 kids I also feel like leaving this country. I came to Wales 10 years ago as a student and thanks to my hard work I have to pay £1,500 a month on childcare to keep working and pay 40% tax on my income to support not only Afghan families but also thousands of British born and bread too lazy to get a job and passing on this laziness to the next generation. We need to get rid of this benefit culture where staying at home getting benefits pays more than having an honest job!
By Maria. Posted November 16 2008 at 3:10 PM.
the answer to this is simple everybody go self employed and pay NO tax you can keep your same jobs just tell your employer you want to go self emplyed it will save them the job of doing your tax and ni contributions anyway you can pay your own ni and tell them were to go with the tax until they leaarn how to spend it.
tax the british for the british and no-one else it stinks
By shay. Posted November 16 2008 at 2:54 PM.
i have been living in private rented housing for the past 3 years we have had no hot running water no gas checks and i have had to replace fires plastering fix water leeks the list goes on ...yet the council will not help me nor the local mp who i have wrote to several times. my partner is on a low income and we have 2 children. is that that we are british that we stand no chance of having OUR country help us?
By shell. Posted November 16 2008 at 10:51 AM.
what a bloody joke! i have 3 children under the age of 5 i cant afford to go to work and put them in childcare because i would have to earn a bomb just to cover the costs my partner does everything he can for us instead so i can bring the children up at home he works full time plus over time just to get by! we dont get help apart from child benefit like everyone! we have full rent, full council tax, bills and dont get any help for health costs for me and my partner its disgusting they wont even give us a council house and were all squashed in a 2 bed house!scroungers make me sick!
By disgusted!. Posted November 16 2008 at 10:46 AM.
Its embarrassing that things have come this far. If a british family went abroad to any country abroad, would THEY get this treatment....No.
This is a product of political correctness gone too far, if families like this do not recieve massive handouts and homes which british born and raised children/families would not recieve its racism. I myself are a dad to 6 children and I guarantee none of my children will be housed or get benefits like these. It is not these families fault it is the DO GOODERS of this world that need stringing up by the goulies.
By cal. Posted November 16 2008 at 8:53 AM.
This is absolute madness. the people who authorised this property as a rental for people on benefits should be sacked. The family don't even appreciate what the British taxpayer is doing for them. It's not the Council's money, it's your money, the British tax payer.Get real!
By sandra hunt. Posted November 16 2008 at 3:10 AM.
I echo what another poster stated: blame the landlord for taking advantage of a loophole.
While it's natural for people to be upset over what they see as someone taking advantage of the system, the xenophobic and racist comments by some are completely uncalled for. Calling them them "terrorists" for example is completely wrong and uncalled for as there is not shred of proof they are in any way connected with any terrorist orgs.
By Kiki. Posted November 15 2008 at 11:17 PM.
=O she has more than most of the hard working people in this country and she doesnt do anything for it!!! if she doesnt need all the seven bedrooms then the council should use it as shared accomodation and give some homeless people from this country a roof over there head!! to any1 who has worked hard to earn what they have WELL DONE!! i am only seventeen and i hope i do well in life but how can any young person plan to do well in life if the goverment make it so easy for people to sit on their backsides and sponge from people who pay tax!!
By nicky tedford. Posted November 14 2008 at 2:59 PM.
i think it is not an issue about racism.i think it in an issue of what is fair and just.bad thing that their country is in war, bad thing that they were driven out from their lifestyle there BUT it is also a bad thing to rely on tax payers money to support their lifestyle.i hold a work permit visa and like any other hardworking and honest person
By jaffe. Posted November 14 2008 at 5:03 AM.
To mo...
I am a tax payer, so is my mum, so was my nan and so are/was the rest of my family...and may i say that not I, nor my mum, nor my nan or the rest of my family TELL TONY BLAIR WHAT TO DO. The British citizens are not the government and the immigrants are NOT the victims. The British tax payers are the victims. We work, we fight and we pull everything we possibly can together and at the end of it all we find that the money we have put towards our british government is being used for people who moved here ILLEGALLY and are living a life that WE DESERVE. Boo Bloody Hoo...afghans have a hard life....dog eat dog world darling and you are lower on the economic food chain if you aren't British.
By Jo. Posted November 13 2008 at 7:41 PM.
Are they still there, scandleous.
By Rob. Posted November 13 2008 at 3:42 PM.
yes this makes my blood boil too. i'm not angry at the family for having this house it's the the bloody councils and goverments. what the family made me angry by doing was moaning about it and pleading poverty. if you want to go to disneyland then sell some of your bloody TV's and game stations but please please please stop your ****ing whinging. if your still not happy the buy a one way ticket back, i'm sure the council will foot the bill anyway
By bob brown. Posted November 10 2008 at 7:30 PM.
Why is this womans 22 year old son still living at home? i dont think that the 7 bedrooms are needed at all. Its very cheeky for the government to charge us taxes for this. there are vritish people here living in poverty and they get no help. I know people that are not well off at all and have to deal with it. If the house isnt good enough for chickens and the house in afghanistan was so much better, they should go back and be happy instead of taking the mick here. on the other hand the council are a bunch of idiots for allowing this to happen
By Naomi. Posted November 10 2008 at 4:05 PM.
Everyone has got the whole picture wrong; the UK government is simply saving money by bringing all the worlds terrorists to the UK. This way instead of sending our troops over to the assholes of the world and spending millions on bombs and missiles we just bring them all to the UK and spend millions on them making them feel comfortable till they can't support there $13000 month houses and decide to bomb you and stab you in your own country
By Dale. Posted November 10 2008 at 3:48 PM.
This is disgusting. She should get off her backside and get her self a job. She can get a job to fit around the childrens school hours. She is just plain lazy. She has it easy... far to easy for that matter so why should she get a job with all the benifits she is scooping in to buy her games consoles and fancy couches and big tvs.
Then they have the audasity to say this house is SMALLER then the one they had in afganistan, Why not go back there then?!
This really has made me total disgusted to be a HARDWORKING BRITISH!!!! mother of a 1 year old with a JOB and a mortgage!
By Emma. Posted November 10 2008 at 11:32 AM.
To the person "Any." who Posted on "November 9 2008 at 2:39 PM." Can I ask if you're a immigrant who also has one of these houses all paid for by OUR taxes? Seems to me like you are. On the subject of changing the government... You're too late all of you. There are so many immigrants here now that if we did try to vote out the idiots who are currently in power the immigrants would probably be able to outvote us! It's indirect invasion!
By Paul. Posted November 10 2008 at 9:42 AM.
This is why I left the country and start a new life at a different country. My taxes kept on rising, and it makes me SICK to find out where the money is going to. She can't afford the bills? SHE HAS MORE MONEY THAN MOST OF US. Her monthly handouts are more than what I get per year! This is disgusting! Why does the government do this? What have we done to deserve this? More and more people are getting luxuries for doing nothing. I have to pay everything out of my own money, and give some to the government to give it to people who are too lazy and greedy, and are laughing at our faces. Our tax money should be used to help make this country safer, not giving it to scroungers. This is unfair to all of us taxpayers. I had no job for six months and what did I get? NOTHING! Not even jobseekers allowance. A new prime minister and a fresh new goverment is a MUST.
By Mark. Posted November 10 2008 at 5:18 AM.
why does the govenment not put a restriction on rent etc paid to people that are not uk nationals and force any one coming into the uk to go to a cheaper area to live not in london area where prices are so expensive.also force these people to go working after say the first year and make them pay money back into the tax mans pot or leave,this would save the tax payers a lot of money,this would make a lot of the british people much happier.
By pete. Posted November 9 2008 at 11:40 PM.
£20 says we wouldn't get the same if we emigrated to afgan
By big t.com. Posted November 9 2008 at 11:35 PM.
I live down the road from this house, it's not the only large house in the area filled with foreigners/immigrants etc. I waited 9 years in a 1 bed flat with husband and 2 kids to get a 3 bed flat, and we're british born and bred. Acton has become a complete disaster and there's hardly any true British people left here.
By Marie. Posted November 9 2008 at 6:58 PM.
This country is a joke. Why is it that people I know live in 1 bedroomed damp, grotty flats with four of the sharing a room when people like her live in the life of luxury and then complain about it?!?! The government seriously needs to SORT IT OUT.
By Emily. Posted November 9 2008 at 6:40 PM.
the country has gone to the dogs. i cant blame the family for accepting the goodies, i blame the system. but if they were only that true n humble they shuddn't have rubbed it in for the rest of the hard-working public.
designer gear, flashy gadgets, hobbies like illegal street-racing in souped-up cars......only dreams for most.
who is to be blamed? there must've been at least one single **** who shud've looked at the figures n think 'this must be wrong somehow'. them blokes at the council have scaled the peaks of incompetence and do not want to climb down. high time for a change at 10 D Street.
By bob. Posted November 9 2008 at 6:39 PM.
I am an ex serviceman who has a family of five children and a wife . Over the years I have worked struggling to pay rent , bills , etc... I recieved no benefits as my wage just exceeded the boundary , however I couldn't afford such luxuries as these immigrants get. They recieve food vouchers some get cars with tax, insurance and mot, even fuel vouchers. I feel a pauper next to these immigrants and I work for a living , my children don't have the luxuries that these have . It's time the goverment put a STOP to this , as most of the immigrants either have a job or go begging aswell as recieving all these benefits . It makes me SICK
By K Whitfield. Posted November 9 2008 at 5:37 PM.
Send them back to Afgan country, why the hell do they feel the need to come to the UK, and sponge of us "Working Class" people, who struggle to make ends meet on a daily basis, but when it comes to us needing help we are told that:-
1) Your partner earns to much
2) You have not contributed enough over the period of time that you have been working, therefore are not entitled.
3) Your child is of an age to work, therefore they can contribute to the household.
I thought we were all meant to be equal!
By Any. Posted November 9 2008 at 2:39 PM.
maybe the government feels guilty for driving these famalies out of afghanistan and therefore insists on paying out £1200 a month in rent.
maybe the rest of you should think how it would feel if you were driven out of your homes in the middle of 1 night and had to travel to another country forever leaving behind everything you, your father and his father ever worked for.
these famalies have had it tough - so you tax payers work your arses off so that this woman can have the top life she desearves to have - and if anyones got a problem with that - well then you should have f***in thought about that before tony blair started s***ing bush's ****. he ruined the british economy and now chills in his villas in America. one day we will all die - who knows when - so enjoy life and stop bitching for things you could have and be greatful for what you do have.
LEAVE THIS WOMAN ALONE
By mo. Posted November 9 2008 at 1:33 PM.
I just cant believe what i am reading, what a joke!!! I have a baby and a partner, we both have jobs which are taxed heavily, and we are still struggling to live and pay the mortgage and bills but are the government giving us all this money! dont think so!!! its about time this counrty started looking after its own and not just anyone who comes here looking for a free ride!! We will have the whole world here before long living and scrounging off our benifit system. Have the government not noticed that there are more and more british leaving the UK because it is a joke.
By Roz. Posted November 9 2008 at 12:48 PM.
Jealous of them? Of course we all are. What everyone needs to bear in mind, is that OUR government allows this to happen.
Would any of the British be offered the same in any other country? No, we wouldn't.
This is not about race, this is about right and wrong. It was WRONG of Ealing Council to pay such exorbitant rent for one family.
Don't blame the family, they are doing what you would do if you were in their position - taking what's on offer (and by god, is this country offering plenty at the tax payers expense!)
By jam. Posted November 9 2008 at 12:27 PM.
Why is everybody mad at the family and nobody mad a the British system? They didn't exactly use guns to get to where they're at now, did they?
I live in Germany and it's the same over here. Immigrants appear to be driving bigger cars, have bigger TV-Screens and all the latest gimmicks and yet they're at home all day long. I can only assume that these people have ways to pity the authorities whereas natives are often too proud or fearsome to ask for social benefits.
By Iris. Posted November 9 2008 at 11:55 AM.
WHO WOULD PAY THERE HOUSING IF ENGLISH HAD A MASSIVE REVOLT AND AGREED TO GO TO WORK TOMORROW MORNING AND HAND IN THEIR NOTICE? bEST PLAN, IRRADICATE THE PROBLEM. THE WAY THE NATURE INTENDED, SURVIVAL OF THE FITEST NOT THE HYINA'S OF HUMAN KIND THAT'S FOR SURE! WHY SHOULD WE PAY. WE DO HAVE A CHOICE NOT TOO, I DECIDED THIS AFTER READING ALL THESE COMMENTS. IF WE DON'T WORK, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY. THEN THE GOVENMENT WOULD HAVE TO ACT. THE GOVENMENT ARE GRINDING THIS COUNRTY TO THE GROUND, WHY DON'T WE ALL MAKE IT HAPPEN. THEN SEE HOW MANY IMIGRANTS STILL STAY HERE. PLENTY OF JOBS AND ACCOMADATION FOR THE ENGLISH AFTER! BET THE PENNILESS SCRONGERS MAGICALLY FIND MORE CASH TO GO HOME THEN.
By MOFFY. Posted November 9 2008 at 11:59 AM.
unreal and British born people have postcode lotterery for health care decissions. How many nurses, medication, police officers can we get for that money. What do we who work and pay for this get, laughed at! disgraceful! Maybe it should come out the pockets of the council employee's, see how lavish lifestyles the maintain then. If there house was so good, how did they have no cash to once the set foot on British soil. They should do genuine British Citizens and taypayers a favour and spend a months rent deporting then 1st class back to their big house and let the British live in "the chicken hen". How insulting and how long before the British start an uprise against these never ending cases. I was homeless for 4 months after been threatened by landlord to rip my f**in throat out, the womans husband worked for the housing benifit department in somerset, I didn't recieve any benifits because i didn't qualify the criteria! I had to steal fruit to survive. I am no jobless doser. Always the agencies that exsist to help the British always helps the scroungers of this miserable world we now live in since men and women died to provide this for our county, proud to be British-NO ASHAMED! now i am back on my feet i am saving to leave this counrty once and for all but as always, not easy for us Brits to leave our own counry, no we have to prove we have funds to survive!
By Shel. Posted November 9 2008 at 11:01 AM.
As for the commet made by Greg,why don't you go to work and pay there bills as you don't mind yet everyone in country who pays tax disagree's. yes we would all put both our hands to grab the cash if it was on offer for free-but it's not free I the taxpayer pay it yet i can't afford anything close to what they have and i work full time no dependents! it's OUR money stolen from OUR wages to pay for these scumbags who drain our resouses. If they want to thank the British, why not sell all the belongings, by their own admittion they had nothing, still survived to tell the story-why not sell it all on ebay and give it to genuine charity.
By shel. Posted November 9 2008 at 11:08 AM.
I am an irish citizen, but just reading this absolutely infuraites me, what gives these people the right to come to Britain/Ireland and seek asylum?? I have absolutely no sympathy for these people, and for someone that was bought up to respect all different natioanlities etc, my government and the english government are slowly turning myself and the rest of the nations racist. At the end of the day we work our 'asses' off to provide a life standard for ourselves which is sufficient to our needs, and these people come in and get everything handed to them on a plate, its like a big FU to all the british and irish natives. I could go on all day about my views, but im just one person. Ship them all home, save the ecomony some money. It turns my stomach to think we're in dire straits with recession, and this is going on?? Gordon Brown/ Brian Cowen YOU BOTH need to take a long hard look at yourselves, you certainly have some explaining to do!!!???
By Gemma Gleeson. Posted November 9 2008 at 10:16 AM.
no surprise there, an insult to the british people
By steve. Posted November 9 2008 at 8:04 AM.
Amazing !! I was stuck in a damp one bedroomed flat in a terraced house for 7 years with 3 children I was born in this country my father died fighting for it We never got the pleasure of a council house.We eventually bought our own My children have all worked since leaving school ,and are now paying this person's rent with their taxes Truly ironic,I m sorry the house is too big for her ahhhh
By mary. Posted November 9 2008 at 7:19 AM.
Reading things like this gets me angry as i claim £90 every fortnight and i was born and grew up in this country with my parents being over taxed (i wonder why?)
By Bee Jay Pitt. Posted November 8 2008 at 2:21 PM.
Well well well, it’s sad to know people here got too many problems as they expressed their feeling by telling them go back to your country OR they just like to complaint.
I am paying back student loan. Giving rent, paying bills plus taxes. But you know what back in their country you killing their people, kids, women, man, destroying their houses their much hard earned lands. Shame on you people who are telling them to go back to their country to get killed. They got every right to complaint because your elected people took them out of their lands. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. I am not from Afghanistan but imagine some country attack you and you go elsewhere for shelter. Would you not angry if you go to the country that attacked you. Look into you own life and stop looking at others.
By furqan. Posted November 7 2008 at 2:47 AM.
This woman is entitled to a house but why should she get a house that cost US £12,000 a month ???? This is the tax payer's money. If her kids are old enough why is she not out to work ? ? ? Because she has figured out that she has more money on benefit's that actually working ! This is the government's problem. They need to change how much people get on benefit's and get the national minimum wage increased. I am working full time and I would get more money not working that actually trying to contribute something to this country. This women seem's like most of the country now a day's. When are the government going to realise this and get the benefit system sorted ??? No wonder we are all in the credit crunch and can't afford anything where as all these people on benefit's still seem to be ok ? Hmmm how does this work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By sian. Posted November 6 2008 at 10:39 AM.
i think we shouldn't let them in unless they can bring something to the table!!!!! we should make everyone on benifits do something in their community for there money even if it was tidying outside there house now and then.
By daniel.. Posted November 5 2008 at 5:30 PM.
Why shouldn't they be entitled to a house? If the council hadn't helped them they would be on the street would that be better? There are thousands of British born people on benefits who have never contributed to the country and probably never will! I think people forget they have escaped war torn countries and need support. If you're going to get so angry about that what about all the single mothers here who get pregnant just to get a house and NEVER have to work!
The system is flawed, don't blame these people. I think it stinks of racism. So what if she is from Afghanistan?! Would you rather the family go back there? Looking at unemployment in this cuontry it#s not the immigrants causing the problem ,it's single WHITE men and WHITE women so get off your high horses.
By Marie. Posted November 5 2008 at 12:18 PM.
Scroungers and the system – Part Three
It's not the fault of the claimants; it's the "do gooders" who are focused on positive discrimination who prevent the government from making changes that would make it fair.
We all let it happen, we are too scared of being racist to make a stand, too tired to get out there and do anything about it.
Racist and discrimination sells papers, trying to make Britain a decent place to live doesn't.
By Sam. Posted November 5 2008 at 11:42 AM.
Scroungers and the system – Part Two
I believe that people should work for what they get, paid or benefits. If the unemployed had to “work” 5 mornings or 3 days a week (so they still had time for interviews and job hunting)! we could live in a cleaner safer place, if they patrolled in pairs around parks, these would be safer for our children. They could provide an extra pair of eyes to the police and make walking safer for children and women alone.
This would provide benefits to the working population. First of all, as the claimants would have to get up every day to go to work, they would become employable, stats show employers do not want to employ long term unemployed as they don’t believe they will turn up! Secondly, a cleaner safer environment for the communities they live in and finally if they have to work, they might just go and get a job and be paid fully for it rather than sitting at home, so the benefit payments would go down (we hope).
This is a 2-class society. The rules apply according to if you work or not and if you own/rent privately or are housed.
If you work, you do all the hours you can get, pay loads of taxes and go broke
If you claim, you watch TV, run up debts and don't have to pay
If you own/rent, you have to wait till you can afford to move
If you are housed, have another child and get the bigger house
By Sam. Posted November 5 2008 at 11:40 AM.
Scroungers and the system – Part One
It's not just the immigrants that are scrounging. I worked for the Gov (don't blame me for that one) and was repeated told I was stupid to work when I could get more on benefit, that was by the white English claimants!
I chose to work. I wanted my children to see that the harder you work the more you can have. As an adult I know that's rubbish coz my claimant friends had new carpets/TV's/new kitchens etc, while I had bare floorboards and ONE second hand TV and very second hand furniture.
The Gov tried (they really did) to change the benefit system 15 yrs ago to make claimants "work" for their cash. Work that would make a difference to the community they lived in, cleaning up gardens for the elderly, clearing beaches of rubbish, clearing underground parking areas.
The "do gooders" went mental as usual; it was against their human rights to be made to do demeaning jobs just because they were unemployed.
Believe it or not, the Gov is trying to do this again. Don’t think they’ll get any further this time than the last, but at least they are trying.
By Sam. Posted November 5 2008 at 11:38 AM.
This is a flipping disgrace and also DISGUSTING.
I can't believe this even happens... how could these Afghans get more benefits than a British citizen?
No wonder they can't pay their bills if one of the sons has 2 mobiles (and doesn't work), they've got a flat-screen TV, a PlayStation 3 & a Wii - how ridiculous is that!!!
Ugh, I just don't want to hear about this anymore. Stories like these make me SICK.
By Ally. Posted November 4 2008 at 11:24 PM.
These scroungers need to earn what that claim in benefits. There are plenty of community service jobs available for them to do. It is a complete joke that they live in such a huge house, because they choose only in life to bang out babies at our tax payers expense.
Go Home and live in your huge home. The UK welcomes workers not shirkers!
By Claire. Posted November 4 2008 at 7:35 PM.
From the Southall Gazette, dated Friday 31st October 2008:
Housing scandle trio fired after "Bizarre Behaviour"
The scandle over the 7 bedroom mansion controversially used to house the Saindi family prompted "Bizarre Behaviour" by three temporary workers - who were let go following the fiasco, according to council leader Jason Stacey.
The Housing team alledgedly refused to answer questions about proceedures leading upto the decission to place the family in a private home costing £12,000 a month and attempted to urgently remove council papers and delete emails before being escorted out of Perivale house.
Cllr Stacey said a decission had already been taken to merge the councils rent deposit and private sector leasing teams at a later date, but the merger was brought forward as a result of the team's actions on the day.
He said "No judgement has been formed on these individuals about how they had handled this particular case but their action clearly raised significant questions. Our senior officers were efeectively left with no choice but to take the action they did. Our officers have and continue to review all aspects of the team's work and I can say that any legal action as reported in last weeks press will be vigorously challenged"
By Jon Newman. Posted November 4 2008 at 12:55 PM.
go home!!!
By m. Posted November 4 2008 at 9:40 AM.
Please remind me where Gordon Brown is right now with 'cap in hand' so his children can continue living well and drink more beer.....
By mr boludo is back. Posted November 3 2008 at 5:30 PM.
I'm 22, my wife is 21 and we have a little baby daughter of 9 months, i was born and bred in the uk, as was my father, his father and his father, etc. me and my wife are both british through and through. i work 40+ hours a week for a high street bank!! (lucky me!!) and my wife has just gone back to work after maternity leave. we were refused a council house because we were both working when we found out about the pregnancy. we are having to rent privately.
After rent, council tax, bills & food.... we have no money left over in the month. we make about £1300 a month. we're paying for the luxuries (toys for the little one, things we want to do) on a credit card, and then have to pay it back, hense we're in debt.
we get child benefit of £18 per week... but dont get tax credits as "we're both working and should have enough money"
THIS COUNTRY IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE.
we struggle and struggle every month and then i see these spongers, who by the way should get back to their own country, getting money left right and centre, its appaling.
But i almost forgot.... its such a shame, they cant get to euro disney, lets just say, it'll be a good few years untill i can afford to take my daughter on holiday with my money.... i'm sure our tax money will take this family off on holiday before that.
By Mark. Posted November 3 2008 at 11:25 AM.
>I know some people are a bit jealous of us<
That's an understatement. However, take the phrase "I know some people are a bit jealous of us" re-arrange the letters and add a couple more, and you get the phrase:
If you don't like all the free benefits, then sod off home you money grabbing free loader.
What has this family ever done for Britain to warrant such a huge paycheque? Stop her benefits and let her pay her own way. She is able to work, her kids who are at college are able work, so why not make them work and offer some token payment for their life of luxury
By Jon Newman. Posted November 3 2008 at 7:46 AM.
This government needs to get itself sorted out and regard everyone equally no matter where they are from. If a British mother of 7 has to live in a 3 bed house then so should a mother of 7 from Afghanistan!!
Also, why the hell should people in government be getting £75,000 plus a year **don't forget their benefits**???? What right does a footballer have to be be earning 1083 times MINIMUM than the wage of a labourer on site????? Quite simply, THEY SHOULDN'T!! these people work 48+ hours per week of hard, tiring labour for minimum wage or less!!!!
May be, after the government have taken from the greedy and given to the needy, may be when the government has re-assessed the minimum standards required to live will we all be happier.
By Ipek. Posted November 3 2008 at 2:29 AM.
We have a couple thousand pounds worth of debt due to necessity and have to survive off £94.95p per week. We have no family or friends that can support us and have done absolutely everything we can think of to make money to survive. Sold belongings, cleaned for a few hours, casual bar work, ANYTHING to keep a roof over our heads, and our bellies fed. Having a holiday is not even a dream for us, we worry about being homeless because we may not be able to pay for the rent AND live off eggs, bread, butter, milk and tea(all Sainsbury's own!!). There were times when I wouldn't even go to university because the bus fare could go towards food/rent. Both have us have suffered from deteriorating health as a result of how we have to live, panic attacks, constant flu symptoms as the window is not fully sealed, coughs due to the pitch black mould on the walls.
This woman from Afghanistan has no idea what to do with money, no, budgeting is not in her vocabulary. That's why she cannot afford to pay her bills!!! REALLY decadent, ignorant, selfish and ungrateful family.
The government is willing to throw money at people from other countries to promote foreign affairs internationally whilst the rest of the country suffers! sky tv? wii console? ipod phone? ps3?!!!!!! **shakes head and weeps with despair** We'd be happy with a home that doesn't have mould and creepy crawlies!!
By ipek. Posted November 3 2008 at 2:30 AM.
I am a third generation immigrant, my great grandfather fought for the british army. I live with my fiancee who is english through and through and neither of us are employable (I am at uni and my fiancee has drifted from job to job), both of us come from very humble backgrounds and are trying to break out of that.
We have applied for hundreds of jobs over the last few months between us, it turns out we would be "better off" (if you could call it that) on benefits.
By ipek. Posted November 3 2008 at 2:30 AM.
One more thing, OF COURSE the family knew how much the rent was!!!! IT"S A FLIPPING MANSION, HELLO!!!! it wasn't going to be cheap was it? and as far as appreciating it goes, talk about playing up to the media!? I bet during that interview she was laughing her face off at how stupid this country is. Of course she's happy SHE HAS A MANSION! she wasn't exactly going to turn around and say "HAHA you IDIOTS I HAVE A FULLY FURNISHED MANSION AND YOU DON'T!!" was she? God bless England, the country of the might and glory...........hmmm
By ipek. Posted November 3 2008 at 2:39 AM.
Decent hardworking British people cannot get decent housing from Council's but yet they can, probably never worked a day in their lives & they have more luxury & money than people who deserve it. It seems that the more you try to help yourself in this country the less you get back in return. The government & councils need to buck up their ideas & help those who deserve it & stop giving to those who don't. No wonder the country is in such a state. TOO MUCH GREED & UNFAIRNESS.
By er. Posted November 2 2008 at 2:28 PM.
so glad I emigrated
By anon. Posted November 2 2008 at 2:16 PM.
any idea how i could get a property like that?i'm a mum of 7-BORN HERE,and i'm squashed into a 3 bedroomed with i kitchen sized 8ftx5ft,so small that cant fit appliances in so washing mashing is in an outside shed&fridge freezers in the sitting room lol!what a joke.& whats more,we don't SCROUNGE,my hubby works for cadburys so supports us but we rent a council house&they will only give us this small 3 bedroom&we pay our own rent.somethings wrong with the system somewhere.its a bloody joke
By emma-louise finlay. Posted November 2 2008 at 1:04 PM.
makes me sick. the goverment need to buck their ideas up.
By laura. Posted November 2 2008 at 12:50 PM.
makes me sick. the goverment need to buck their ideas up.
By laura. Posted November 2 2008 at 12:47 PM.
com on brits, lets all give up work and then c wot our gov will do then.
By jane. Posted November 2 2008 at 11:07 AM.
I am a british citizen..British asian sikh.. I a totally appauled by the handling of the council in london in gicing out hand-outs to certain people.
If people from other countries are not prepared to work, attempt to work then no help should be givwen, the use of children to obtain benefits etc etc should be banned and looked at more harder.
The fact there are many britons who are living in poverty for real, and are commiting suicide daily says a lot about the government,
Something has to give... It is NOT FAIR for britons like myself to work my socks off to get what..NOTHING...I take home a minium wage and barely live off that for a whole month...some people can live off a FREE WAGE BY THE GOVERNMENT and be happy...that also goes for the britons who dont do nothing apart from SIGN ON AND GET THE CASH....cheap and easy way to stay alive..
UK HAS TO CHANGE, CHANGE NOW OR FACE THE CONSEQUENCES IN YEARS TO COME...
HENCE I HAVE APPLIED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. MY APPLICATION HAS STARTED...THANKS TO THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
THANK YOU GOVERNMENT
By tony. Posted November 2 2008 at 10:42 AM.
these people get everything and they scan the system in anyway they can, The government let them do it! it make me really furious a have a sofa is 9 years old is broken, but I can not afford to have not even a £300 sofa. all the money go in counsel tax, rent, food, working hard and got nothing. My uncle in law who is a truly British person pay tax and insurance all his life, have cancer and have some part of his body were remove. he hold two bags in his body. He work because the goberment don't want to help they say one year he pay less tax. uncle pay extra tax year one of the year and told then to take the extra tax from that year he pay more tax into the year he pay less tax , he pay less tax because he was dying in hospital and not claiming nothing.
But now he need help, He work He has to pay bills but every time he has to be taking to hospital again and again from complication , because He does work and the government don't want to help. is frustrating how the government give money easy to those who has never pay tax or insurance in this country. Those who work hard the government is letting them dying and begging for help.
By mariel. Posted November 2 2008 at 10:38 AM.
A 50 year old friend of mine worked from home after earning good salary levels for many years but fell on hard times. Used his home equity to keep off the Social, but eventually was repossessed. He now lives in a one room bed-sit in Forest Gate and his wife and 2 children had to move in with her parents. All their possessions are in storage and because they cannot afford the fees they will eventually lose them as the Social will not assist. The husband has now had two minor strokes and lives on £85 per week plus housing benefit for his £50 per week room. Now this is a British born family that paid their way for many years (at above average salary) and when they fell on hard times were split up and live in very, very humble conditions.
HOW THE HELL DO WE ALLOW IMMIGRANTS TO RECEIVE WHAT THEY DO IMMEDIATELY THEY ARRIVE WHEN OUR OWN RECEIVE A PITTANCE. AND, REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE, YOU TOO ARE 3 MONTHS AWAY FROM BEING IN THE SAME POSITION.
My friend and their family would have done better to have gone to France, then re-entered the UK and destroyed their papers and claimed they were Stateless. They would have been allocated an area, housing, furniture clothing etc. THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR BETTER OFF.
Now we are entering a Recession and our unemployment rises, will we continue to see UK employers using low-priced immigrant workers instead of our own, thus exacerbating our Social Security costs and still failing our own citizens. CRAZY.
By Paul Dyer. Posted November 2 2008 at 10:24 AM.
THATS WHY THE COUNTRY IS FULL OF SCROUNGERS AND BROKE.THEY GIVE TO EVERYONE BUT THEIR OWN.THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE ASHAMED HOW THEY TREAT THEIR OWN PEOPLE.COME VOTING TIME THEY PROMISE US EVERYTHING BUT GIVE NOTHING.JUST KEEP THEMSELVES IN A NICE SOFT WELL PAID JOB ANOTHER SET OF SCROUNGERS ROBBING THE TAXPAYER.
By patsy. Posted November 2 2008 at 9:32 AM.
British bred and born, worked all my life (30 years) now ill and CANNOT get a penny out of this government............... what's the point?
By sw. Posted November 2 2008 at 8:58 AM.
My hairdresser has RELUCTANTLY had to pack up work because her husband has Multiple Sclerosis and she gets more benefits if she is NOT working, than if she carried on working.
By Stephanie. Posted November 2 2008 at 3:44 AM.
I sympathise with those who are having difficulty paying rent, on long council housing waiting lists and those who want to get on the property ladder. I'm on maternity leave and after working with London's criminals for the last 5 years, I cant afford to stay at home with my baby and having given birth 4 months ago am contemplating returning to work so i can put a roof over my childs head or staying in an over crowded home to care for her.
The goverments priority should lie with the BRITISH BORN (Black, White, Asian etc). Racism is NOT the answer, some people were invited here by British government to work doing jobs the BRITISH did not want. Those who do not work out of choice and claim benefits that MY taxes help pay should be reviewed, quarterly.
Just because immagrants say stuff does'nt make it true! If i could pretend i was fleeing domestic violence or war and knew that the goverment would give me somewhere nice to live, without checking my history, i would! Although the government has provided Key workers with all these schemes, the properties on sale are expensive and the schemes dont help the average lone parent family who works hard for the country and pay taxes. Futhermore, we are unable to obtain council housing because of our salaries and astonishing amounts of people who need not be here applying for housing (the wait is 5-10 years).
The government should be tracking down those who have over stayed their welcome and dont need council housing.
By Vexinhackney08. Posted November 1 2008 at 8:09 PM.
If the Goverment like the afghans and the immigrants so much why dont they go back to there own bloody country and live amongst them.
and see what its like. We have no choice there all living and breeding amongst us Brit`s. Ive got to the stage when i go out, I feel Im no longer living in britian, I feel im in africa or in asia. every where i go
and that is britian 2008. And im totaly fed up of it.
By Mike. Posted October 29 2008 at 5:13 PM.
I was wondering if Gorden Brown and his Merry Men
would pay for a lonely farm house with stable block and 5 achers of land that goes with it! Its a lot less the property that was given to the afghan family. £500.000. I hope you TAX payers out there dont mind at least im not asking the earth £1.2M after all
i im british. Dont worry im only kidding. What a Goverment no wonder i dont Vote.
By Mike. Posted October 29 2008 at 4:39 PM.
I would just like to say "fair play to the landlord!!!" i too would accept an offer of 12 grand a month and i dont think there's anyone out there that wouldnt if it was offered. Wether or not there are immigrants involved! Everyone seems to be concerned about these people being immigrants well im not " i would just like to have another 4 kids and the landlords phone number so i can move house too !!! i never realised i was or that anyone could get that kind of rent paid and well .......mr brown congrats!!! youve outdone yourself with this one. Youve got my vote!!!
By mandy. Posted October 28 2008 at 11:27 PM.
I didnt read all the comments as there are so many, so im sure this has been said before... but oh my god! how!? me (21) and my partner (24) both work full time and can only just afford the rent on our flat, along with my £140 council tax bill and all the other bills that need paying. it drives me mad how people my age are rewarded for sitting at home breeding children and earning more than us who have worked bloody hard for our wages. x
By Francesca. Posted October 28 2008 at 7:57 PM.
It really makes me sick knowing that people (british people) all across the country are struggling for houses even though a lot of the work! when clearly this family of spongers don,t give a damn, the fact that tyhey laugh at this mansion is absoloutely shocking and if they really do feel that way then they should go back to their own country. Im furious also that they seem to think that if they come into our country with nothing they get everything and well they really do becuase our gouverment obviously feels that they are more important than the british. and if you don't believe me then st take a look at the story of the man who worked for a living and was told that there were no houses availabe for him yet there was a mansion for an Afghanistan family! i along with many other people am furious and if they are willing to laugh at what they have they should be thrown out and flown back to thier own country immediately!
By samantha . Posted October 28 2008 at 5:41 PM.
I find it upsetting that people are stating Britain deserves it because of the empire and invasions of countries etc. Speak to most Jo Bloggs on the street and they will object to the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, and certainly this generation shouldn't be held accountable for the 'sins' of our previous leaders who chose to invade other countries.
Sadly, this goes to prove there are loop holes in the systems, and whilst I do feel that non-British citizens do seem to be looked after better than those who do actually contribute to society and the economy, it is not those peoples fault. Who knows what horrors these people have may have fled from?
However taking that all in to account, I do feel that the attitude (certainly in the article at least) of the family involved does bring to my mind the phrase 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth'. Many people don't get to take their kids to Disneyland, as this is not a human right. We should be focusing on ensuring that anyone who comes to our country (& where possible) in need has basic human rights, can have them- which doesn't include luxury items and trips. Basic human rights, are food, comfort and shelter, not cars, TV and Nintendo DS.
The working and middle class, which is the back bone of our society, generally cannot afford things such as this, should why should it be a 'god-given right' of people who aren't working towards society, and something that they can take for granted?
By laura. Posted October 28 2008 at 12:11 PM.
Hilter went power crazy, it went to head that much
they lost the war, Maybe if there was civil war people wouldnt be sucking upto the goverment as much as they do. why dont gorden brown and his merry men do one before its to late. no labour party or conservative party should exist. Its 2008
not 1940. Whats next the Gas chaber.
By Mike. Posted October 27 2008 at 9:57 PM.
In stead of blaming people who are claiming benafits
and people who are on the sick, Start blaming the ones who put most of them there in the first place.
every one as differnt reasons. Some though no choice of there own.
By Mike. Posted October 27 2008 at 9:26 PM.
How can i answer this one without swearing?
IT`S about right for this Goverment.
By Mike. Posted October 27 2008 at 9:19 PM.
Drove past RAF Newton in Nottinghamshire today ... 100s of houses all derelict.
To house these people in central London is insane.
To pay all these benefits to people who are not in full time education or doing 20 odd hours voluntary work is madness. If they had to do 1 or the other ... half the people on benefits who get paid cash wouldnt be claiming saving the rest of us billions
Re immigrants who just want a free ride, who can blame them must be like a lottery win But why not cut the red tape and just pay £500 for a 1 way ticket back and send them back to whereever they came?
By Mark. Posted October 26 2008 at 9:53 PM.
This isn't an isolated case. A car dealer friend of mine told me he had an immigrant with a 19K cashier cheque from the council for a car. Another friend told me how he had fitted top quality carpets into a nicely refurbished Victorian mansion for a Somalian family.
Even after reading stories like these, I bet most of the dim people in this country and the commentators above still vote labour at the next election for reasons they cannot explain!
By Dave. Posted October 26 2008 at 9:48 PM.
As a worker with the CAB I am not at all surprised to read this: all CAB advisers - at least in this part of the world - are dismayed by the cheek of a lot of our immigrant clients. Even if they have little spoken english they know exactly which benefits they want to claim & have all the answers to questions off pat.
Wearealso very concerned that we have to fill in so many forms eg DLA, Income Suppport etc without the applicant actually being present. The Gov't NEVER asks who filled a form in & whether the applicant was present & supplied the information used.
By NWLad. Posted October 26 2008 at 1:09 PM.
Its fine kicking off about this obsurd carry on,but why is no action being taken to put the matter right.Do the government see this as a joke? No wonder racism & hate is on the increase,the country is fast becoming a powder keg by the governments own doing.They should house people in this situation on the worst housing estates in england,this I am sure would make them wish they where back in their home land.Positive action is required NOW!. So come on labour get your fingers out.I am sure many people think the same way as myself,but we have been forced down this road of thinking by no fault of our own by useless governments.
By Benny. Posted October 26 2008 at 9:10 AM.
disgusting. Britain should stop immigration and send back all of the scroungers. why cant they stay in their own countries, especially if there houses are bigger and lives are better there. b*gger off then! why does britain have to play nanny to the worlds waifs and straifs and lazy beggars. all the ones that dont work send them back, cut them off, they are not the UKs problem! i wouldnt care if her and all her kids were on the street if its means they go back to where there from....
By s. Posted October 23 2008 at 11:18 AM.
OMG.............I cant believe the amount of benefits this family receive! That is a disgusting figure! especially when our own indiginous brits get a pittance!
But then Hey. ..thats the labour government for you,bow and scrape to all and sundry who come in to our country for "refuge" but stick 2 fingers up at the good people of britain who desperately need an increase in benefits!
My final comment is this....If the house they live in in the UK is smaller than their chicken coop in afghanistan... then buzz off back to afghanistan and stop sponging here..
By ALEXA. Posted October 20 2008 at 10:36 AM.
Stories like this get on my nerves. I am on maternity leave getting £500 monthly and my husband has just been made redundant but as he was a subcontractor we cannot get any money as the law says that a married couple only need £94 weekly to live on. I get child tax and some working tax all of which does not cover my bills. I get no help with my mortgage. Do I moan, not until I hear pathetic stories like this..... Wouldn't we all like to live in a 7 bed house, the family should be housed in something appropriate, we all cannot afford the luxury of own bedrooms. More attention should be given to families who have nothing, no house...
By fed up with this. Posted October 20 2008 at 9:19 AM.
evrybody i am not racist but i think the jobcenter and council is more at fault than they are after all they gave him a big house "how he got it? beats me" but there is no point of sending them home after all there is no home to go too but for god`s sake sake waken up britian/jobcenter council give your own kind a bit of treatment after all we have paid our taxes and born here
i have a son diosabled £54p/w man & wife £92 p/w had paid for his home for 23 yrs lost it for the goverment pays intrest only bank wanted more council/jobcenter says tuff now my wife has cancer and i m.s and still get nothing???????????????????????????????????????
By gus. Posted October 20 2008 at 4:16 AM.
Something is fundamentally wrong. Political correctness is worse than global warming (or cooling, or whatever is the latest). People used to fight for their country, many of them weren't afraid to die to protect it. Now people are afraid of being called a racist, they give up and allow immigrants and crooked politicians to ruin their lives. Where did common sense go? Why we don't screen immigrants, and give them only temporary permits. Let them stay only if they are willing and able to assimilate. If they contribute instead of depending on the taxpayers' money, if they respect our laws and culture, I have no problem with them. Importing large numbers of hostile parasites is not in our best interest, I wonder why we have to put up with it. What's next? Let them drive on the right side of the road?
By Stan. Posted October 20 2008 at 12:10 AM.
RECENTLEY WE LOST OUR HOME IT WAS REPOSSESED, NOW MY HUSBAND HAS LOST HIS JOB TO BAD HEALTH, WE LIVE IN PRIVATE RENT THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD AND BECAUSE IM IN RENT ARREARS THROUGH NO FAULT OF OUR OWN, FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES, OUR LOCAL COUNCIL SAYS WE CANNOT HAVE A COUNCIL HOUSE. AND THIS WOMAN COMES TO BRITAIN AND GETS ALL THIS MY SON SERVED TIME IN THE ARMED FORCES AS WELL. THIS COUNTRY IS MAKING ME RACIST IT IS A DISGRACE I HAVE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE AND OK COS IVE MADE FEW MISTAKES BUT I SHOULD NOT BE TREATED LIKE THIS.YET SHE GETS THE WHOLE PACKAGE, I AM DISGUSTED WITH THIS GOVERMENT ...IF I WON THE LOTTERY I WOULD LEAVE ENGLAND FOR GOOD.AND GO GERMANY THEY MAY OF LOST THE WAR BUT THEY TREAT THEIR PEOPLE WITH RESPECT..
By joan gosney. Posted October 19 2008 at 9:53 PM.
If this life were about honesty then a simple thing would be to have video refereeing in Football.As it is the game will always have the referee as the most important man on the pitch as it means decisions can be made that are wrong,hence the chance to win by cheating.The powers that be do not want the truth nor do they want us to be free to choose the truth.
Yet if we allow this to continue it WILL be the end of football and it will spell the end of our society also,if it isn`t too late already that is.
Pride comes just before the fall.
Penelope
By penelope. Posted October 19 2008 at 8:57 PM.
Dear Amy,
It is true Mrs.Thatcher would not have allowed this,she was too busy finishing off the mines and the docks that once made us Great.Those who want power should not be given it!There is no logic nor reason left in this world.It is no more this woman`s fault than it is her fault that Afghanistan is the largest producer of opium on the planet.(Ever since the Americans took over!)
More fool us all,we allowed it to happen whilst we were all acting like rich people buying houses with money that isn`t ours.
The real end of a just civilisation is when Health and Safety is brought in to play for everything we do and when Political Correctness is forced on a society as a matter of course.
One makes your scared to do something and the other makes us scared to say anything so to take our mind off it let`s buy things and drink as much as we can.
We are a damaged society.
I can drink myself to death but cannot smoke marijuana which is PROVED to be less harmful than it`s legal counterpart.(Read the Government`s own study as well as all the independent sources as well).No logic here folks,no science nor judgement just FEAR.
We are not about truth, honesty, nor reality.We are about lies and cheating and greed.
By Penelope. Posted October 19 2008 at 8:55 PM.
That 's how you English people behave with other people, you white idiots. That 's not her fault that 's your stopid government 's fault.
By Adam. Posted October 19 2008 at 2:53 AM.
It seem's amazing to me that people can't see why Engand is in such a mess. The Government has a large percentage of Scottish MP's and throughout history the Scots have had an issue with England. Tony Blair allowed England to be flooded with immigrants who generally live on benefits. The one's that are prepared to work, like the Poles, will work at a cheaper rate of pay and will prevent the English worker from getting a job. England is now ruled by Brussels and is suffering because of this. Terrorist's aren't allowed to be deported because of their 'Human Rights'. When are we going to wake up and get this Government out? I hope it will be at the earliest opportunity.
By Michael Booth. Posted October 19 2008 at 1:53 AM.
I'm Spanish and it's the same in Spain, a "wonderful" country where the immigrants have more rights than ourselves, because according to Mr ZP they're socially disfavoured. I'm not against immigration, but I do think your own people should always be first. Every day we see struggling families who cannot make their ends meet while foreigners are given houses and benefits. As long as there is a single Spanish person without a job or a place to live, immigrants shouldn't be allowed in our country. But if you say something like that, you're accused of being a racist. A few days
ago I heard a couple from Peru speaking to other immigrant couple about the house they had bought in their country with the money they had saved from the benefits they had got from the Spanish government. Benefits that I have to pay. I haven't got a house of my own but I have to pay for the house of others.
It makes me sick reading something like this. They should work for a living like the rest of us or stay in their countries. If I'm labelled a racist, so be it.
By Silvia. Posted October 19 2008 at 1:02 AM.
The reason this is happening time and time again is down to the growing number of immigrants who are somehow getting into power then providing for their own people whilst genuine British people are ignored. Say anything and they try to use the racist card. Immigrants, even if given citizenship, should not be allowed to stand in local or national elections at any level. This is not their country. Anybody who supports them is a bigger joke.
This country is in severe debt, yet our politicians borrow vast ammounts of money then send it to the third world where it is never seen again or spends it all on immigrants who flock to this country like flies around a cow pat.
IT STOPS NOW AND ALL THEIR PRIVILAGES ARE REVOKED OR WE SHOULD ALL STOP PAYINGTAXES EN-MASS. What could they do about it? I personally would drag those in power out of it, quite literally, and put in place British people who have common sense.
By MUMFIE. Posted October 18 2008 at 9:25 PM.
This is disgusting and an insult to the British hard-working tax payers, many of whom are struggling to make ends meet because of the totaly inept way this country is being run. All MP's and councillors who put non-British people first need to be removed from power and expelled from the UK along with all the immigrants that have no right to be here.
Chartity begins at home Mr Brown & Co and if you don't put things right then there is a large amount of disgruntled British people who are prepared to drag you out of power if needs be.
By George Toon. Posted October 18 2008 at 9:18 PM.
they should go back to own country or they should work here for five/ten years before they get any benefits and look after our own people first
By nick cameron. Posted October 18 2008 at 7:44 PM.
PURE INSANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUR SOLDIERS ARE DIEING OUT THERE, BEING PAID A PITTANCE, SHORT OF KIT, STRUGGLE TO GET BENEFIT WHEN INJURED, DIE WAITING FOR MEDIVAC.
THE REFUGEES LIVE A BETTER LIFE THAN THE SOLDIERS AND MOST OF THE UK POPULATION WOULD EVER HOPE TO. . . AND WE WORK FOR IT AND PAY TAX!
By cad. Posted October 18 2008 at 6:59 PM.
Thats why we as a family emigrated to Canada(which took two years to do) as the UK has become the dumping ground for scroungers.
By Paul Moseley. Posted October 18 2008 at 4:39 PM.
Well I have read a lot of comments but not all, there are simply too many.
I havn't seen one comment on what her son said about his activities at night nor selling a car for 6000 pounds nor the several he has about the area?wonder if he told the social about that
If the four that are old enough to work were put into bedsits and then the rest put in a normal sized house would this reduce the rent bill. or would this be unsatisfactory to the family.
We must reduce our role as do gooders and start to look after our own first after all charity begins at home
By happygaz?. Posted October 18 2008 at 3:16 PM.
Ok lets face it. Most comments here are horrible dispseakable and inhumane. One comment says the BNP should get in power and listen to Enoch powell. Now this is a country where Christianity is shunned. Other religions like Islam are protected. I have lived and travelled the world and the UK has a problem. You are the only counrty in the world that sits down and let the government pass stupid laws over your heads. You don't even protest against excessive always increasing transport fares. So why would you get off your butts and protest laws that allow this kind of family to happily sponge off the system? And for the comment supporting Australia being rude to migrants. I'm Australian and our past laws will be reviewed for encrouching on human rights...I mean look at our treatment of Indigenous people (We are not good role models) Don't copy the Australian point system. Find one that works for you.
By Niki. Posted October 18 2008 at 2:34 PM.
THE BNP needs to be in power for this lunacy to stop. There have been many lies by the "mainstream" parties aginst the ONLY party that cares about the British. It is not racist to support your own. The Multi Cult isn't working
By David. Posted October 18 2008 at 1:52 PM.
Typical free-loading parasite's
They come over here expecting everything to be laid out for them.
The sooner the BNP get in to power the better.
By George. Posted October 18 2008 at 12:08 AM.
What Is The World Coming To?
This Is Ridiculous, And Their Not Even Grateful!!!
They Don't Need All Those Luxuries, It's Just Materialistic- Wanting Things Not Needing Them.
The Government Needs To Open Their Eyes, Because Giving All That Money To One Family Is Beyond Stupidity!
By Saff. Posted October 17 2008 at 11:50 PM.
I FEEL OUTRAGED BY WHAT THIS WOMAN SAYS I HAVE 2 KIDS BUT I STILL GO OUT TO WORK WHEN THEY ARE AT SCHOOL,I DO MY SHOPPING AND ETC WHEN I GET OF WORK.SHE;S GOT 4 CHILDREN WHO ARE OLD ENOUGH TO WORK BUT PREFER LIVING OF BENEFITS.I MYSELF AM A FORIEGNER,BUT I WORK AND TRY TO SUPPORT MYSELF AND MY KIDS,I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE BRITISH PEOPLE DONT LIKE FORIEGNERS,I THINK THE BRITISH PEOPLE NEED TO COMPLAIN MORE AND STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS,I;V GOT A NEIGHBOUR WHO;S BRITISH AND HAS WORKED ALL HIS LIFE BUT NOW HE CANT EVEN GET THE BENEFITS THAT HE AND HIS WIFE DESERVE,HIS PAID TAXES ALL HIS LIFE.IT MAKES ME WONDER IS IT ANY USE WORKING HARD ALL YOUR LIFE AND WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THE SYSTEM TO GIVE BACK, IT DOESNT.
By jade. Posted October 17 2008 at 6:58 PM.
....And tha's why i'm leaving this hole of a country a.s.ap. Anyone fancy joining me?!
By Al.. Posted October 17 2008 at 8:31 PM.
Destiny
By Mr. Boludos sister-in-law's sister. Posted October 17 2008 at 8:21 PM.
I am a christian and have read all these comments,i dont see what peoples faith has got to do with anything dont insult us.I dont have anything against people who come to work in this country as we would have to show we could if we went abroad and its just an insult to the british people, i have heard people say they come to this country coz we are a soft touch and that is not fair to all nationalities who work hard to make ends meet and have people come in and scrounge.
By claire. Posted October 17 2008 at 3:24 PM.
I am a british and i pay a mortgage and have a little girl me and my partner work day and night reading this story makes me feel sick how the council gives property away to people from other country who have no right in this country i am thinking me and my partner should quit are jobs and just have seven more kids and live on benifits all our lifes and get a big house from the council and have a luxury life like 10 Downing Street!
By Samira Ali. Posted October 17 2008 at 12:24 PM.
of all the civilized societies Australia always come across the most racist to minorities.... so what? people still want to holiday/go live there or accept them over here... maybe getting some criticism from abroad isn't a big deal... try it GB!!
it is only loosers who give away everything this way... the spoungers are laughing at you..
By bigkev. Posted October 17 2008 at 12:14 PM.
Its called Positive Discrimination. ITs been going on for years. Look at council jobs i applied for so many and lost out to those of Ethnic minorities who were less qualified because it bumps up statistics!"! IM White British and we are bottom of the ladder for anything these days. People like this make me sick. Is the governme