Fathers 4 suicide

I split with my husband nearly a yr ago now, and i split with him as he was taking drugs and staying out all the time, he spent all our money which meant we lost our home that we go together. He tried killing his self on 1 occassion and caused me so many problems, no1 seemed to want to help. Then i met someone else and the tables turned i got blamed for drug use and sleeping with people behind his back and people believe him, i recently had to stop him seeing his son as he drinks far to much and i believe he is still taking drugs, i also hear that he has tried to kill his self on more than 1 occassion. These are good reasons as to why he should NOT see him, im protecting my son and hear of too many dads who kill them selves and take their children with them. Standing on a roof is stupid and not showing the child they care about them just showing the child they DON'T. My ex pays £5 a week and its not good enough but i don't care about the money safety comes first.

By L.M.C.. Posted January 28 2010 at 3:54 PM.

Women who use the kids as weapons........should be jailed.......fathers who abuse their women should be jailed..........when visiation righst are issued for both sides they should be adhered to any woman failing to do this should have the children removed and placed with father..And she should have to apply to see the kids...goose and gander come to mind.......

By Allan.. Posted November 16 2009 at 7:29 PM.

ive not seen my little boy for two years now. she said in court i wos violent but it wos her violent to me. she said i hat to give up seen my older son from 1st marrige bcoz she wos jealous of him and a dangerours jealous to. i share care of my older boy who is eight and hes not seen is brother in two years and a bit. yet she takes my csa money every month it joke no contact no money?

By terry harvey.. Posted September 28 2009 at 8:43 PM.

Dads are not just money machines. They have the right to see their children just as much as mums. Mums who use the children as pawns should have them taken away from them. My view is if dads are not good enough to have around their children then there money is not good enough either. People want to blame the dads but dads are not generally malicious or vindictive and most will do anything to protect their children. They are often forced to stay away from their children because the mother will not hide there feelings from them. These mothers don't care about their children only themselves and revenge for a marriage breakdown. The courts and mediation are useless. They are not interested once they know there is no abuse happening. They get bored with it and so do the lawyers. The sad fact is no one really cares about the dads feelings and along with this the children suffer because they cannot say how they really feel when they love both parents the same. They are forced to be bad to the dad to please the mum. As usual this country closes its doors on its own people who are suffering. Its so simple. Where alienation exists, remove the child from the alienator and the child will heal quickly. The alienator should have supervised visits so as not to turn the child against the loving parent who really cares for the child. This poor man is not selfish its the courts and malicious mothers who drive these dads to dispare. They need help. Why will no one listen.

By Deary Me.. Posted March 23 2009 at 10:02 PM.

A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: “The Government firmly believes children should NOT be denied meaningful contact with their other parent, where this is safe.”

So what is he doing about it. Obviously nothing, but sitting back and watching fathers ending their lives. No one realises how much it hurts unless its happening to you.

By dev.. Posted March 10 2009 at 1:51 PM.

EVERY CHILD HAS A RIGHT TO SEE THERE FATHER. EVERY CHILD WANTS TO UNLESS THERE MOM POISONS THERE MINDS. IT TAKES TWO TO HAVE A CHILD IT SHOULD BE TWO TO RAISE IT. PARENTS SHOULD STOP USING THERE KIDS AS PAWNS. KIDS HATE LISSENING TO MOM AND DAD FIGHT. IF A FATHER ISNT ALOWED TO SEE THE KIDS THEY SOULDNT BE MADE TO SAPPORT THEM. UNLESS THERE UNFIT OR A DANGER. THIS GUY THATS GONNA HANG HIMSELF...WHAT KIND OF A LEGASY IS HE LEAVING THE KIDS? HE DOSENT SOUND STABLE ID WORRIE ABOUT HIM SEEING MY KIDS TO, WHO KNOWS THE ULTIMATE HURT WOULD BE TO TAKE HIS KIDS WITH HIM. HE NEEDS HELP....

By Barbara .. Posted February 18 2009 at 6:34 PM.

In response to TUTUs message i tottally agree if i was working full time I would expect my ex partner who works part time to contribute to the travel expenses, despite having to look after the children feeding and general care of them, I still think its appropriate that you should get access to them at no cost to yourself after all you are the bread winner "man of the house".

Lets hope the court sees this in the same light as you do.

By Bobo.. Posted November 25 2008 at 8:24 AM.

I have recently been through a divorce and I am having a hard time getting access to my children as they have moved 200 miles away and they expect me to go visit them but I am unable to due to the costs involved. :(

I have instructed my solicitor to arrange for my partner to pay costs for my children to come and visit me despite me being the bread winner I am expecting my ex wife who works part time to contribute towards the travel costs, I dont think this is unreasonable as she has the children and she has access to them most of the time.

Lets hope my ex wife agrees to the new meeting arrangements so I can see my children.

For your records the move took place over a year ago and I have only been to see them once.

By Tutu.. Posted November 24 2008 at 5:24 PM.

I am having difficulty i getting access to my children. I lost a hearing in February 2008 at Bolton Court for custody of my children, despite prodcuing a lengthy report outlining what i am doing for my children and how i will support them and encourage them in their interests, education and career. My ex produced a report which was only a piece of A4 explaining why she wanted to move out to South England. The courts and CAFCASS did not listen my views at all during the 6 hour court hearing.
I argued to allow shared care as children need both Mother and Father, and this would be less disruptive to my children but the courts did not allow this, thinking they know better.
I felt i was treated like a criminal.
Now i am having difficult in getting access to my children, my solicitor advised me that it will cost me a lot of money if i went back to court.
I have no choice but to pay for the wrong decisions made by the courts to see my children.

I see LAW does not exist in Familiy cases. The decisions which are made are not justified and decided by one person only - the so called judge- without hearing enough evidence. This is the way they make their money, rather than helping us resolve matters.

By Dee.. Posted November 12 2008 at 10:19 AM.

I would also like to add that these victimized children are not stupid. When these children become of age and want to know their fathers and seek them out and find out that the mother has poisoned their minds using Parent Alienation Syndrome, you can bet that these mothers will have a lot of explaining to do.

It shouldn't be hard for these mothers though because they are master liars.

Anyone in the US that is a NCP and going through this family court / child support nightmare needs to understand that the democratic party (Obama / Biden) are bad news for fathers. Obama has vowed to dump another 4 billion dollars into the enforcement of child support instead of reforming an already broken system. Biden has authored the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) and is primarly for women.

The bottom line here is that these candidates will not stand for the rights of fathers.

By Tom.. Posted October 26 2008 at 7:36 AM.

I run a MRA website and in our forum we have had a few women, like the women posting their opinions on this blog about how they think the world should be.

At the core of these women is a dark and evil spirit. Any woman that agrees with the separation of a child from the father where neglect or violence or molestation have not been proven by a CRIMINAL COURT has EVERY RIGHT to be a part of his child’s life PERIOD and any person that doesn’t agree with that or withholds a child from a father using the inept, corrupt family courts to do so, well, let’s just say that there IS a judgment day and I would give ANYTHING not to be in those shoes.

Men, and F4J, don't be fooled or distracted by these women as their main goal and focus is only to distract and derail from the main objective which is the child. If man didn't exist, women would not have the right to call themselves mothers.

Let’s continue to fight the good fight because we will prevail. We will prevail..

By Tom.. Posted October 25 2008 at 7:37 AM.

What we have here is a failure to communicate. The bare nuts of this is evil. Our so called system is designed for one purpose. To destroy the family unit. Just like Stalin (who happens to be the author of a large portion of our family laws. check it out) did in Russia. Weaker families produce weaker people. weaker people are more easily governed. It is a sick and twisted testament to the fact that we have become a nation of cattle. Herded into categories labeled and processed without any real rights or liberties. If you don't believe this just get involved in the court system. Fathers have all the rights of an accused criminal. That means that if you can afford it you may find some form of justice. If you don't have the resources your screwed and become another cog in the wheel.

By Deadbeat # 1,298,456.. Posted October 11 2008 at 6:56 PM.

everybody knows that family court is unfair to men. everybody knows. some admit it, some don't. those who don't are self serving liars. everybody knows that family court does not do what is in a childs best interest. those who don't admit this are corrupt self serving liars. empower the liars. great. then there are the ignorant. which of these things is joe biden? is he ignorant or a self serving liar? it seems that no one asks him. i guess it's because everybody knows.

By fred sottile.. Posted October 8 2008 at 11:35 PM.

Though I was legally innocent, the American government took my only son, my home, possessions and 18 years of my income to give to my wife, who was "unhappy."

I was more shocked that the an injustices against fathers was so large - like other guys in their 20s, I was focused instead on establishing a career and having some fun.

If politicians and women's groups are unwilling to change the laws to be fair, which I suspect they will not, then at least there ought to be an awareness campaign in schools and media that divorce will cost an average guy kids, money, and property, chance for incarceration (domestic violence and child support laws).

By Mark Ruffolo.. Posted October 9 2008 at 1:16 AM.

Clearly there is a revolution afoot. I have been through the family court system in the US and faced exactly the same thing - reduced to a non-parent (Non-Custodial) and then fleeced for incredibly unrealistic support payments to be paid at gun point (basically).

The governments need to stop this Nazzi-styled approach to family law. It is crazy beyond anyones dreams and no one knows about it until they go through and others don't believe it.

By Tom .. Posted October 8 2008 at 8:51 PM.

STOP THE INSANITY!

How much longer must this continue? Good, fit, loving fathers, mothers and grandparents all around the world are not allowed to see their own children? There is too much government intervention in to our personal lives. It's time for a change and the time is now.

Let the revolution begin!

By Donald Tenn.. Posted October 7 2008 at 3:09 PM.

The Government spokesman's comment is self-evidently untrue, that the Government " firmly believes children should NOT be denied meaningful contact with their other parent, where this is safe.”

The Senior Family Law judge states that 60% of children have no meaningful contact with their fathers, yet even this feminist government could not claim that 60% of fathers are unsafe to be with their own children.

Tens of thousands of good fathers are denied any maeningful involvement in raising their own children simply because there is a powerful anti-men streak running through this government, championed by Harriet Harman, and it is dishonest of the government to pretend otherwise.

By Ray Barry.. Posted October 7 2008 at 9:40 AM.

The corrupt and evil family courts do not care one bit about children or their fathers. Only the mothers wishes and feelings are of concern.

In my 10 year struggle, I went to these absurd places of injustice 133 times to see my three daughters who all wanted to see me.

But because the mother would not allow it, each of the 33 judges we had refused to enforce my various contact orders upon her.

Eventually, when I became insistent about enforcement, the secret family courts took my contact orders away, as they deemed keeping the mother happy was in the best interests of the child.

Only when my three daughters became old enough to take the law into their own hands were we reunited. Corrupt family courts will not deal with a mother who breaks contact orders, but when a child simply votes with their feet, the courts run away too.

Unfortunately, the huge and corrupt family law business is built upon keeping mum and dad fighting in this unequal circus. The legal presumption to see your child post divorce and separation, enforced where necessary, would make redundant thousands of Solicitors, Barristers and child experts, so change will never take place from within.

Although my case was resolved years ago, I still campaign, my latest stunt was to climb upon Harriet Harman's roof in June 2008. My daughters fully support what I do.

I have written a book about what happened to us, called FAMILY COURT HELL, available through amazon and most bookshops.

By Mark Harris.. Posted September 29 2008 at 9:58 PM.

In my case, a woman friends of my ex-wife, put even a Porno in front of my child, my ex-wife's lawyers admitted, this woman admitted it in Court procedures, and the actual Court and the previous one DID NOT NOTHING ABOUT IT !!!

My daughter and I, we are punished because I requested the Priest of my Church to support me in my daughter's education, and my daughter's Catholic formation.

Well the Court decided that I was talking the priest to go against my ex-wife, so the Court now placed a restriction against the Father, that he can not approach the School from 500 yards. He cannot contact the School, teachers and the Parish where my daughter's school is.

No evidence to support this decision, just a verbal request from the ex-wife lawyers.

TELL ME IF THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE !!!!

NO SUPPORT EVIDENCES, AND THE COURT DECIDED TO BAN THE FATHER FROM CHILD'S SCHOOL LIFE.

Father, has no Violent Records, No Criminal Records, No Police Records, No Arrests for Violent Behavior, No Arrests at all.

Father's 4 Justice, is a great organization, but what we really need is to all Fathers to join forces and Vote together and have these Judges remove from position by Votes, the same way they got there, let's get them out.

By Francisco.. Posted September 29 2008 at 9:47 PM.

This is a perfect example of what fatherlessness in society can do. The man has lost all hope. For crying out loud, somebody change the law and the system!!!
To all Dads facing not seeing their kids, keep fighting, protesting, whatever.....don't ever give up!!!

Nigel Ace
New Fathers 4 Justice

By nigel ace.. Posted September 29 2008 at 9:30 PM.

No-one in their right mind would wish to learn of a father's death (whatever the cause) or such a bereavement for his children, but for those of you with no first hand experience of the UK "Family" Courts, you are hardly qualified to comment.
In effect, a living bereavement is being forced upon this man and his children, one with no closure, finality or means of moving on.
Can you REALLY imagine what it is like to be prevented having any involvement in your children's up-bringing for no good reason other than the mother doesn't want you around & the Judge charged with securing the children's "best interests" are too spineless to make Orders & subsequently enforce them?
Every single day that goes by, you wonder how your child is, what they are doing, with whom are they spending their time, how are they doing in school whilst some mealy-mouthed District Judge with a cheesy grin has the gall to tell you that they have over 30 years experience of the Family law system and know better than you what's "right" for YOUR children!
I really don't give a damn whether you're a mother or a father-it's the child's RIGHT to know both their parents (warts and all) and both extended families.
To the father in this case, I respectfully suggest that suicide is NOT the example to set for your children-fighting the wretched Family Court system to the bitter end and to your last breath would be a far better legacy & a means by which they will be able to measure your undying love for them.

By Matthew Mudge.. Posted September 29 2008 at 1:19 PM.

Things are beginning to change thanks to F4J but justice is a long way off still, the status quo is too good a cash cow for the lawyers and governments. These despiccable anti-male laws were brought in so that Dads had to pay for all the single mother families created by the no-fault divorce laws in the 70s and the government encouraged women to destroy their families for NO GOOD REASONS.
It is incredible injustice , you just cannot believe it all unlesss you experience it for yourselves !

By Martin Swash.. Posted September 29 2008 at 11:41 AM.

Fathers for justice?! I don't know how these men sleep at night.

Dads don't want to pay child support! Dads can't take it when THEY swan off 'to find themselves' or go off and leave their family sometimes not WANTING to see their children for years ,..... wait UNTIL mum (poor downtrodden mum who slaves away looking after their kids) eventually finds a nice man THEN what happens 'DADDY' reappears demanding contact and rights, this government know this, they give violent dangerous, neglectful, even peado scum dads unsupervised contact with their kids,men who had NO interest in their kids. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE children the family courts have killed, AL the thousands of hoody knife wielding thugs on street, look closely at these knife killings nearly always they are from a family where 'daddy' walked off (rarely the other way around)

By Grace.. Posted September 29 2008 at 11:31 AM.

Dads taking their own life? It's sad what having to SUPPORT Their children drives them to. WOMEN live a daily death ongoing prison sentence when they have to bring up thier children alone, ill health often from childbirth, lack of social life, no financial support from father, having to provide 3 meals a day for the children while Daddy who tells the CSA he can only pay a fiver a week strangely manages 3 foreign holidays a year and has funds to pay for his new trollops and her kids.

When will this government wake up and see all this for what it is this nonsense of 'shared parenting' is ALL about a way they thought up to avoid supporting their children! (the billions owingto the csa is evidence enough of mens hatred for their kids) F4j and their bully boy tactics havekilled more than a few mums, they have killed thousands, the cases you don't hear about, the cancers, the strokes, the deaths nonone will write about.

Shame on the lot of you.

By Del.. Posted September 29 2008 at 10:46 AM.

If women want all things equal then it should include father's time with THEIR children! It should be automatic(as long as no abuse is there). Other countries including Canada (Motion 483) are motioning to have it standard so that kids spend equal time with both parents after divorce. There are copious amounts of studies and research that confirms equal time is best for THE CHILD who is the most inportant person here!! Mothers who fight this will only have it bite them in the ass some day by the child.

By sean.. Posted September 29 2008 at 1:40 AM.

If women want all things equal then it should include father's time with THEIR children! It should be automatic(as long as no abuse is there). Other countries including Canada (Motion 483) are motioning to have it standard so that kids spend equal time with both parents after divorce. There are copious amounts of studies and research that confirms equal time is best for THE CHILD who is the most inportant person here!! Mothers who fight this will only have it bite them in the ass some day by the child.

By sean.. Posted September 29 2008 at 1:39 AM.

yes these 'dad' should be have ful rights .....errrr yes beacsue hanging out on the roof of some one house or building is what all good parents do.....and again killing one self with of course have no ill effects on a person children at all....we should be giving these 'dad' full bloody custody and get them away from their sane and normal care giving mother who are looking after them.

Thses men are NOT dads its woman that carry children...give birth and almost all the time are the MAIN care giver and thses iditots in super hero outfits and bitching they want more, ffs. wgo are the adults please point them out.

go ahead mate kill yourself show the world why you deserve nothing and should be kept as far away from your kids as possible

78% of killings in domestic situation are done by men against woman and 65% are aganist their own children!! why to get back at the mothers that why.

i hope fathers for justice rots in hell

By m williams.. Posted September 28 2008 at 8:46 PM.

Its a real shame things have to come to this. I hope the mothers of these children can sleep at night. I know sometimes things happen and some fathers should be kept from their children, but not because they were caught sleeping with other women/men etc. Its not revenge keeping your children away from their dads.

By F4J.. Posted September 28 2008 at 7:06 PM.

It's about time all these Mps started taking family life seriously.
I overdosed in 2000, that doesn't mean im a bad person, and gues what i won my family court case!!

Short minded people go with the flow, do this do that, well im independent and represented myself during my court case, i dont trust solicitors!!

If ANY GOVERMENT DONT TAKE FAMILY LIFE SERIOUS, TO SOME FATHERS" LIFE WITHOUT YOUR KIDS IS UNBERABLE!!

By 50/50 Parenting.. Posted September 28 2008 at 7:53 PM.

and mr. anonymous needs to address his obvious mental health issues.

By Carl Jung.. Posted September 28 2008 at 6:19 PM.

some idiot's wrote "they don't fine the mothers".......who do you think feels it most when the mother(main care giver) has a proportion of her budget "fined" and taken from her?.....that's right, einstein, the kids!! it's this sort of skewed, self pitying attitude which highlights why some fathers are not yet capable of playing a full part in their child's life. the courts do a good job in difficult circumstances and try to get through the vitriol on both sides to find the best possible solution for the needs of the kids involved. time to stop blaming others, chaps, and look within for the root of your problems.

By graeme's cheese and pickle sandwich.. Posted September 28 2008 at 6:16 PM.

So who exactly was this Ministry of Justice spokesman? Labour have refused to discuss the appalling injustices that go on in our corrupt secretive family courts. Perhaps you should ask him to explain how it is that over 300,000 children have been forcibly separated by his courts since they have been in power. I have never been convicted of anything - No one has suggested that I am a danger to my children, but I have been stopped from seeing them by District Judge Goddard for a total of 416 days now!! But because of his judgement it is probably not classed as no contact because he said to me "Any contact is meaningful contact. I am going to allow you to write to them once a month and send small gifts at appropriate times." He then went on to advise me "not to make my letters too long because children have short attention spans". This last statement just goes to show how completely out of touch he is. My girls are all bright as buttons and could read a 850 page Harry Potter book from cover to cover in 2 days.

I reiterate - I am not a danger to my children. Perhaps you can ask this muppet how my case fits into his statement??

By Tim Line.. Posted September 28 2008 at 4:29 PM.

In my opinion if you threaten to commit suicide then you are not safe enough or sane enough to look after children...so maybe its the right decision!!

By Lisa Kinghorn.. Posted September 28 2008 at 4:25 PM.

"Chris", "Sarah" and "Sam" -- your posts are completely moronic. Study some history.
In the history of slavery, under which men were denied normal human rights, it was not uncommon for these humanly abused slaves to rise up and attack their self-declared "masters". Can you comprehend a slave lashing back at the system which enslaves him? And when the system is so insidious as to use the slave's wife/children as the agents of the crime against the slave, does it surprise you that some of the slaves lash out at them? The system in causing these crimes which is then uses as the justification for itself. You two need to study a bit of history.

By Anonymous.. Posted September 28 2008 at 5:45 PM.

Speaking from experience, there is an horendous amount of gender bias in the Family Courts. As an unmarried father with no legal rights to his children I fought to get 'Residence' of my children in order to bring up the two young girls who called me 'Dad'!!I cannot speak for the various Agencies that Sarah refers to but had enough experience of 'gender bias' via the Court Reporter (social worker) who worked for Cafcass and recommended that the children would be best served living with their Mum despite the fact that this would have made them extremely unhappy to the extent that my 10 year old daughter was openly threatening to run away if forced. Some unscrupulous solicitors encourage their clients to use false allegations of abuse, both sexual and physical, in order to stop the other party (usually Dad) challenging for the right to live with/have contact or see their children. My solicitor advised me to forget about seeing my children and to sort out the property/money issues first. So I sacked him and represented myself through the best part of 4 long years whilst bringing my girls up!

By mark.. Posted September 28 2008 at 10:53 AM.

Help this poor man now!
This poor fellow is offering his own life in aid of other dads who are not allowed to see there children.
Stupid laws in this country must change.
7 years on and my own brother can't see his son, he has had a severe mental breakdown with it all, he is due back at court soon which he has paid for out of his own pocket because he was refused legal aid, the torment is killing him, all he talks about is his son, if he is not allowed to see him soon i'm sure he will end it as he says he has nothing else to live for.
cruel law cruel society cruel goverment
fix broken britain now!

By chris.. Posted September 28 2008 at 10:46 AM.

A variety of agencies thoroughly look into the home life from all aspects not just what the mother wants. Access is only denied when there is a risk to the children from either parent. Just look at the actions taken this week by one "loving" father not getting his own way? He killed his children - what right did he have to do that? This is not the first time a father has killed his children for revenge on his partner. Access is always denied for a good reason so don't be fooled by the sob stories.

By Sarah.. Posted September 28 2008 at 9:46 AM.

What an example to set your children! The father is only thinking of his own situation and feelings and not giving a thought to how an act such as this may effect his children. Maybe this attitude is why a judge thought they'd be better off with their mother !

By J Brown.. Posted September 28 2008 at 9:23 AM.

although i agree that fathers have the right to see their kids therehas to be a better way than people killing themselves over this subject, it's such a waste of life and i realise how much it must hurt them to be denied access to their kids why do something so drastic, after all they are just removing themselve from the scene permenantly instead they should fight and fight then if all else fails just wait until their kids are old enough to see them, if they kill themselves they are just hurting their kids more than can possibly be imagined and that's worse, i do sympathise with the cause and i hope there are changes soon so that the vindictive cows that do this to good decent fathers can't hurt them anymore.

By jules.. Posted September 28 2008 at 9:12 AM.

although i agree that fathers have the right to see their kids therehas to be a better way than people killing themselves over this subject, it's such a waste of life and i realise how much it must hurt them to be denied access to their kids why do something so drastic, after all they are just removing themselve from the scene permenantly instead they should fight and fight then if all else fails just wait until their kids are old enough to see them, if they kill themselves they are just hurting their kids more than can possibly be imagined and that's worse, i do sympathise with the cause and i hope there are changes soon so that the vindictive cows that do this to good decent fathers can't hurt them anymore.

By jules.. Posted September 28 2008 at 9:11 AM.

The family courts in this country do not care a damn about Dads rights. They, and sadly solicitors are happy to take huge chunks of cash from desperate fathers knowing full well that nothing is set in stone thereafter. The courts just haggle out an agreement with the mother of which is really what she wants, and then she doesn't keep her part of the deal. Unfortunately every time the dad goes back to court to complain, he has to fork out again because of his ex's cruelty. And yet the courts don't fine the mother for doing this. the system is a joke, its unfair, and worst of all its downright robbery.

By lynney2shoes.. Posted September 28 2008 at 8:10 AM.

yes i agree the family courts have a lot to answer for. i saw what it did to my partner who was refused acess to his kids and didnt see them for 5 years, it was only when the oldest was 16 did he get intouch..He did go to mediation but wen the mother has the kids all of the time, she did a lot of brainwashing etc
such a shame that people cant see what it is doing to all these dads, until you have been there or been close to sombody who has been through loosing their kids do you know about heartache and suffering.

By sam.. Posted September 28 2008 at 7:58 AM.

I assume there's a reason for access being denied. I suspect there's more to these stories than we are told by the fathers.

By john Woodcock.. Posted September 28 2008 at 7:42 AM.

Quote:

A Ministry of Justice spokesman said: “The Government firmly believes children should NOT be denied meaningful contact with their other parent, where this is safe.”

The implication being that those who are being denied access to their children are violent. Yes, their are some, but the vast majority of fathers who are denied access were, and are excellent fathers.

All these Fathers(and in some cases,Mothers) are VICTIMS of DOMESTIC ABUSE, but are being IGNORED as VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC ABUSE by the Government and its agencies.

By Michael Wiffen.. Posted September 28 2008 at 7:49 AM.

No father should be denied access to their kids, if the kids are happy to see them.Women seem to get custody even if it was them who caused the family split.

By gran.. Posted September 28 2008 at 6:34 AM.

Mike is spot on, dads are taking their lives through the misery and injustice of family courts, how many more lives will be affected before anything is done by this ineffectual labour government?

Level the playing field and put both parents on equal legal footing following divorce or separation, make mediation compulsory and have a presumption of equal parenting as a starting point.

The law must change and the secret family courts must be open to scrutiny.

By L Davison.. Posted September 28 2008 at 3:54 AM.

the evil, secret family courts have a lot to answer for.

By bacon butty.. Posted September 28 2008 at 3:58 AM.