This 11-year-old schoolgirl had a baby ... on her wedding day

SHOCK STORY OF CHILD BRIDE AND TEEN GROOM

WEDDING: Jeliazko and Kordeza, hours from giving birth

By Jane Atkinson in Sliven, Bulgaria, 01/11/2009

HOLDING up her tiny baby for the camera, 11-year-old bride Kordeza declares: "I'm not going to play with toys any more - I have a new toy now."

For the youngster barely old enough to start senior school has just become a MOTHER after going into labour during her WEDDING to her teenage boyfriend.

She was still wearing her flowing white dress and tiara when she arrived at hospital and gave birth to 5lb 8oz Violeta.

But after spending the night with her newborn, Kordeza - who you can see on video below - changed back into her wedding dress and nipped out to finish the ceremony.

And the Zhelyazkova family couldn't be happier for their child bride - the youngest girl ever to give birth in a city where 13-year-old mums are routine.

After leaving hospital this week, Kordeza - who fell pregnant within two weeks of her 11th birthday - spoke exclusively to the News of the World.

See Kordeza on video

Exclusive interview with 11-year-old mother who gave birth on wedding day

With proud husband Jeliazko Dimitrov, 19, at her side, Kordeza admitted: "It feels strange to be a mum and have a baby.

"I used to play with my toys but now she is my new toy. She is so beautiful, I love her. Violeta is the child and I must grow up. I am not going back to school - I am a mother now."

Kordeza met Jeliazko in the playground of her Roma gypsy school in Sliven, Bulgaria, when he rescued her from bullies.

The worried teenager - who is facing up to six years in prison for having sex with a minor - wrings his hands as he recalled: "I was walking past the school when I saw some boys mocking her and I told them to leave her alone.

"Then she arranged to meet me and asked me out on our first date. I thought she was 15. She didn't tell me she was 11."

Kordeza giggled: "I didn't want to say in case he wouldn't fancy me."

The pair went on their first date to their local park then met at his mum Violeta's house near the gypsy ghetto where they both grew up.

IN THE GHETTO: Kordeza's dilapidated home

But within a WEEK of them meeting, their daughter was conceived. Kordeza admitted: "I haven't had sex education classes and I didn't know how to get pregnant. I'd never had a boyfriend and I'd never heard of condoms.

"I didn't know I was pregnant until my grandmother saw I had put on weight. I just thought I'd eaten too many burgers."

By then Kordeza was five months pregnant and living with her grandmother Dida, 55, because her parents were both working on vineyards in Spain.

Home is a ramshackle one- bedroom bungalow with no bathroom tucked away in a labyrinth of filthy alleys in the ghetto - ironically called Hope.

Dida said: "I noticed she was getting fatter and asked if she was OK. But she's a shy girl and she just shrugged at me. I never imagined she was having sex. She's the kind of girl that likes to play on the computer and loves her schoolwork - her favourite subject is maths.

"I was still worried though and when she told me she had met a boy I bought her a pregnancy test. I hit the roof when it was positive, and she cried and cried."

Incredibly, it is not uncommon for Roma girls to fall pregnant in their teens. Sliven is the underage mums capital of Europe with 177 cases last year.

Dida, who herself married at 13, explained: "It's normal for our girls to have babies young. It's our tradition. But I didn't want it for my Kordeza - I felt she was too young."

When Jeliazko found out he was going to be a dad he dashed back from Spain, where he had been working on farms.

He recalled: "I was really scared. We didn't plan to have sex or a baby although I fell in love with Kordeza the moment I saw her."

PROUD GRANNIES: Raina, right, and Violeta

Her mum Raina, 33, said: "I fainted when I found out Kordeza was pregnant. I couldn't believe it but I knew I had to stand by her."

The family quickly planned a three-day Roma wedding for October 22 - so Kordeza and Jeliazko could be married before the baby was born.

His mum Violeta, 36, married at 13 and had him when she was 14. She explained: "It is so important for our women to be married when they have a baby."

Nobody presides over the ceremony, but Roma gypsies believe the weddings - where most brides are aged 14 to 17 - are legal in their tradition and more important than a conventional service.

But as the families marked the second day of celebrations, Kordeza went into labour a week early. She explained: "I had been having pain in the morning and a couple of hours into the wedding it got worse."

She was rushed to hospital and gave birth 20 minutes later. Kordeza said: "It was quite easy but painful too. I was very happy when I saw her. She has a nose like me and hair like Jeliazko."

The new mum then returned to the ceremony in time to be married before getting back to the hospital to feed her baby.

Both grandmothers will be guardians of baby Violeta, easing the concerns of local social services who initially wanted to take the baby into care. Kordeza and her daughter will receive £70 a month in state benefits.

Hospital doctor Sonya Mihaylova confirmed: "This is the youngest child who ever gave birth in our ward."

Raina said: "Kordeza is still a child and I hope to do everything I can to make sure she isn't robbed of her free time."

Prison

But her new husband Jeliazko is not allowed to live with her as the Prosecutor's Office is investigating the case. For having sex with a girl under 14 he could face two to six years in prison.

Jeliazko said: "I'm scared. I want to look after my wife and child. Instead I may be going to prison. I made a mistake but I am not going to apologise for that because now I have beautiful Violeta." Raina added: "Everybody seems to be against Kordeza and Jeliazko but what have they done wrong? They are a young couple in love."

They are already planning their future together. Jeliazko said: "We know that having a baby is a big responsibility. My wife is young but I will make sure that I look after both of them if the law allows me."

And he dreams of giving his daughter a better future. "I am going to work hard and make sure we all have a good life," he promised. "I want Violeta to be educated, to be able to read and write. She was born famous and maybe she will stay famous like becoming a doctor who invents brilliant medicine or saves lives.

"Whatever she does I will be proud of her - she is my little girl."

Kordeza adds: "I don't want more children right away. I think one is enough for now."

The family are planning a huge party next week to celebrate Violeta's birth. Jeliazko's mum said: "We want to show her off. I just hope that my son does not go to prison.

"He is a good boy and a hard worker. He loves his wife and he will support his baby.

"I don't think it matters that they are young. They are in love with each other and the baby. Surely that is enough."

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when i first heard about this i was pretty grossed out, I'm 17 and couldn't imagine having a six-year-old!
but now that i read there story, and some background on it, it seems like they will do just fine, and I think it's amazing how those families pulled together the way they did. so supportive, I don't think the guy should get in any trouble for this at all. or the girl, just let them be.

By e0may-hop. Posted November 21 2009 at 7:05 AM.

why are people blaming the girl?? just because she hid her age doesn't mean she's at fault. she's a child. she didn't LIE about her age. at such a young age, how could she possibly comprehend the possible consequences. i think the man was wrong in his actions, but if this stuff is so common then he shouldn't be punished. why make life harder for them? just let them live out their lives.

By steph. Posted November 21 2009 at 5:17 AM.

I really was quite shocked to read this, but for gods sakes it's not the boys fault. Don't send him to prison! The girl should have told her true age, but she didn't and theres nothing you can do about it now! I say leave the two alone, they have thier families behind them and I think they will take good care of the child. And if they don't I'm sure the parents and grandparents will step in.

By Sarah . Posted November 21 2009 at 4:55 AM.

there it is she didnt admit her age...and by the way who really cares, if you love someone or really want to be with them age and anything else doesnt matter.
Get over it people.

By Brittany. Posted November 21 2009 at 4:31 AM.

I have read some of the comments, and why the hell do you say that she made a mistake? She gave a new life, and she's happy about it! It was her choice to keep the baby. Besides everyone there is happy for them, and saying this is a mistake is wrong!

By Riczk. Posted November 20 2009 at 1:53 PM.

please she made a mistake let her live her life it is her and her husband life i must admite she was wrong but it is her life let her live it right

By bluegal905. Posted November 19 2009 at 12:47 AM.

aww whatever you do please dont put him in prison

By safa. Posted November 18 2009 at 6:52 PM.

Please people, PLEASE! How are you expecting the young dad to be more careful and caring for his new family if you want to put him in prison. Who are you to judge people, the new mum is happy for their action, why do you want to deny her the happiness she want of having both her baby and husband at home. Please people don't do that! They seem and sound very happy together, PLEASE DON'T PUT HIM IN PRISON. they are young and soo much in love.PLEASE I PRAY YOU!

By No PLEASE. Posted November 18 2009 at 1:54 PM.

she dont even look 11:O she loooks like 20 ?
how can this eb trueee

By chelsea. Posted November 7 2009 at 8:10 PM.

the girl should have told the boy her age and he shold have been more responseable and i hope that they have a good life together god says that thou shall preserve thou self i hope that she ca finish school and get grades and she needs to pray to jesus christ to help her in her decisons and not to be worshiping no other gods and worship jesus

By xy. Posted November 7 2009 at 7:10 PM.

Disgustingly outragious!!!!!!!! This is DISGUSTING!!!!! We arent living in the 16th century anymore where we could all be struck down by disease at any given moment although hopefully some kind of twist of fate will take these stupid, irresponsible people out of the gene pool permanently!!!!

By Dee Taylor. Posted November 7 2009 at 2:45 PM.

14 is still young, here you can go to prison for having sex with a underage girl until she's 18

By Neil Cohen. Posted November 6 2009 at 11:49 PM.

We should hear about things like this far more often! Young mothers are a sign of life, a sign that society has not yet deteriorated to the point where we are no longer reproducing ourselves. When there are no more young mothers, birth rates fall, people become selfish and gain unhealthy attitudes (such as thinking that a person's life is over when they have a child, or trying to keep children from growing up) and people go to jail for falling in love.

We should shout it from the housetops: Love, marriage and having babies to bring glory to God is what life is about, so go do it as soon as you can, don't wait!

By Raven. Posted November 6 2009 at 8:22 AM.

What everyone is failing to understand is that,
Its the law of the land which states you can not have sex at that young age. Does not matter if your in love or you have your parents blessing. Everyone must follow the same rule , that is democracy.

By Resalat. Posted November 5 2009 at 10:33 PM.

it was really shocking while reading that a 11 year old girl turen in to a mother

as i m from INDIA where child marriages were done in early centuries as well as it is still there in some states of it and even leagle

I would not blame Kordeza or Jeliazko for having sex having a baby girl

as they had said above that they had no knowledge of sex and condoms which means that the government of the country is not pay any attention towords the sex education to the teenagers

i would say that the Jeliazko should not go to the prison as even after making a big mistake of his life making her pragnent he do run away from there but stand with her, he married her and trying to keep them happy as much as he can

as they both LOVE each other

they should get another chance so that they can correct their mistake

LOVE ALWAYS WIN

By Gagan Garg. Posted November 5 2009 at 7:00 AM.

Puberty is the age of consent in some countries not some random number like 16, 18 or 21.

Who are we to judge them by our social norms?

By Aaliyah. Posted November 5 2009 at 12:19 AM.

i dont think that dude should be put in jail, yeah their both really young, but love is love, they got married and their parents blessing. if they didnt have a baby, or got married, yeah i would be like uhh... eww. but they love each other and he doesnt seem like a scum bag dad. people there marry young, yeah shes a lot younger then they would of liked her to be but still. i think the man should be left alone with his beautiful wife and baby girl. some people just need to back the **** off of those two kids business i think.

By Bianca. Posted November 4 2009 at 8:14 PM.

I have just recieved this email and had to check it out on this website, Ok... Here's a South African's perspective on this. Basically It is their Life, as stated in the article he was not told of her right aged when questioned by him. So him going to jail is not the answer as the family is of a poor background, he should be given a chance to be able to work and provide for his new family. May God bless them abundantly and forgive them of their stupidity.
Tc

By Shivani.Padayachee. Posted November 4 2009 at 2:53 PM.

God is the one who gives children the child en the mother are inocent the man should be left free since he has agreed to take responsibility set him free so he takes care of his love and inocent baby

By . Posted November 4 2009 at 11:32 AM.

I THINK ITS COOL AND THEY HAVE TO LEARN FROM THERE MISTAKE...GOOD LUCK AND ALL THE BEST JAH BELZ!!!

By paul marama. Posted November 4 2009 at 8:34 AM.

hi, i just wana say that who are we to judge them i think its none of our business..its not anyone's problem and people who are judging them wont even help them at all in raising that child... gud luck to both of them !

By isabell. Posted November 4 2009 at 8:27 AM.

you are all pretty much terrible. it happened. sorry, too late. no they shouldn't put him in jail he needs to support his wife and baby. and who are you to condemn their marriage and their family and values and morals??!! what has this country come to? just remember that thing from the bible, let those who have not sinned be the first to throw a stone. then see who sits here and runs their mouth. how about a little positive attitude, some comfort some help or encouragement. not all this worthless negativity. please people. have a heart?

By Kiersten. Posted November 4 2009 at 5:33 AM.

Yes I agree that having a child at 11 is completly wrong but you have to think abou it as if you lived in bulgaria. if they dont have the material to teach a child about sex ed at age 11, how can you bame the child. Just like myslef and everyone else commented, we all were 11 and at somepoint in time we didnt know about sex.
At least the family took an approach to handle the situation and have the child born into wedlock. And why should the father go to jail, so the child can grow up at least 6 years without knowing who the father was. And also for the 11 year old to struggle on her own. If its normal for women inthat country to wed and have children at a young age then people from the united stated needs to realize that

By Nicole. Posted November 4 2009 at 5:15 AM.

best of luck to the family...no judgement from me.

By jenn. Posted November 3 2009 at 11:40 PM.

I live in San Antonio, TX, USA. I am not going to pass judgment on these two because I truly feel they just made a mistake in their choices of action. The little girl clearly stated that she didn't know how to get pregnant and never thought about being pregnant.

As a nurse and a 27 year old mother of 3 myself, I do know how much stress that having a baby puts on the womans body. Yet alone on a developing young girls body. I read in one comment that "she was fertile so obviously her body was ready", this is not true. As a woman begins her menstrual cycle and begins ovulating her body is still slowly developing and preparing her for childbirth later, even if she can become pregnant. Her body as a whole is still developing. There are risk associated with having children at a young age that most girls do not know about because you never really hear of the complications later and no big deal is made of these risk. This goes for the young girls in America as well. I know and see plenty of young preteen mothers here. So we are no better.

I also question how much the father really knows about sex education. Then I look at their culture and their living conditions. They are use to this lifestyle. I do commend them both on attempting to be responsible parents and do the right thing to form a family and make the best of the situation, however I can say this is neither right or wrong. I have seen too often myself where people young and old try to make it work for a child and things do not turn out the way they are planned. Maybe with the way their culture is things will turn out different. I truly hope that it works out their way.

And honestly, what good is it going to do to lock the father up for 2 to 6 years. He can spend those 2 to 6 years working and providing for his family. The deed is now done and from the looks of it they all need the support of one another. Taking one person away is not going to make the situation any better. Taking the baby away is not going to ensure that the baby is placed in another home or recieves better treatment.

People are judging the mother on calling the baby her "new toy". She is young, this is just another example of her not really choosing correctly. These were merely her words, we adults would have chosen better words to describe our situation but, she really doesn't know how. No one and I mean NO ONE is born a perfect parent and they have to learn how to be the best parent possible. I think with both his and her mother, and the grandmother helping she maybe just fine.

My heart goes out to this country and all it's little girls in this situation. Yet their culture is their culture. And God makes no mistakes. His will be done! My prayers and best wishes to them all!

By Larea Andrews. Posted November 3 2009 at 10:36 PM.

she is not a Bulgarian!

By secret keeper. Posted November 3 2009 at 9:29 PM.

i don't think it's right at all that an 11 year old can have a bbay she is still a child herself and has her whole life ahead of her she has just throw it away. The thing that makes it worse is that the father is 19 years old. I think he should go to jail for having sex with a minor. Now, she is going to have no eduaction and no life. She can't even look after herself so how is going to look after a baby. The fact that she said she has a new toy to play with makes me feel for the baby. I FEEL SICK AT THE FACT A 19 YEAR OLD MIGHT GET AWAY WITH HAVING SEX WITH AN 11 YEAR OLD. There is something really wrong with that....

She should have the baby taken off her she is way too young to look after a baby she can't even look after herself let alone a baby.....

By Kelly. Posted November 3 2009 at 8:09 PM.

How dare anyone judge them. In our society this would be sick & immoral. What no one realizes is this isnt our culture, it's there's. Completely different. They are taught differently, 13 is the age that women are married off, it's their norm. So who are you to judge? Honestly, it may not be an ideal situation, but they are handling it the best way they can, & no one has any right to judge them!

By brooke. Posted November 3 2009 at 7:56 PM.

Im 14, and whatever any of you say, this is wrong! They shouldn't be doing this, its sick and if she hasnt had sex education in school, if her grandperants say this is what young girls do around that age, then she should have taught her about the subject! They knew what they had coming to them living in their area and their conditions! Anyones to blame but this little girl.

By Jess. Posted November 3 2009 at 6:28 PM.

she has done a very big mistake at the age of 11 surely a child dose not want to look after another child at that age and she has got a long life ahead of her ,and at that age she is parenting and she must of thought of what she did surely anyway atleast she learnt her mistake NOT TO HAVE SEX AT A YOUNG AGE!

By yasmin begum. Posted November 3 2009 at 5:26 PM.

THANKS FOR YOUR WEDS

By ugonna. Posted November 3 2009 at 3:51 PM.

I just can't believe children are having sex at 11, and to give birth at 30 is horrendus, god what that child and her body must of gone through, and the rest of her life torture.

By karlie. Posted November 3 2009 at 2:31 PM.

oh my god 97% of everyone who has commented on here a rude and aregant how dare anyone say that our own cultur is better than another i am in australia i am 22 i have a 4 year old and a 18 month old i have also been married for a year and my husband and i do not rely on welfear payments we only get $90 a fortnight i work full time in aged care i am also doing a degree in aged care which i finish in march my husband also works and is studying buisness so he can run his own accounting buisness our 4 year old is in kindy and our 18 month old is in daycare and geuse what we pay for it all our self if we can make it all work who is to say these 2 cant give them half a chance he may have done something that we would consider moraly incorrect but maybe he should not go to prision other wise how will his wife support herself and thiar child

By leanne. Posted November 3 2009 at 2:17 PM.

Come on guys! Enough with the criticism and attacks. Yes, they made a mistake, but they seem like they've learnt from it. Im not saying this is acceptable or it is the right thing to do, coz its far from it. But what I am saying is that, who are we to be sitting annonymously behind our computer screens judging them. Honestly, I am not happy with how this is being dealt with but it is not fair for them to have others saying things like "The guy should go to jail..." and stuff like that. i believe this guy is what a committed guy does, takes responsibility for his actions, marrying the girl and taking care of his child. OK so maybe he should've gone about things in a different way but us sitting here say "should have, shouldnt have, could have" isnt gonna change anything. we should let them live their lives and jus live our own lives too.

By Anonymous... Posted November 3 2009 at 7:59 AM.

At least he is taking responsibility. In america this happens its just that it doesnt get into the newpapers. There are alot of unwed mothers being made and there is no one responsible except the grandparents and the parents end up helping raise the child of these unwed mothers.

By shane. Posted November 3 2009 at 6:41 AM.

My! What were they thinking?..I mean,arent they aware of being pregnant?...But,what happened,happen!so..its their culture..to be happy after IT.Respect guys.:D..Well, at least,..we learn from this incident.So,lets just hope for the best for those people who had this kind of situation. But,please!!...Lets not do that THINGGYY(sex) when we are not yet prepared.Enjoy life!!

By charlieshe. Posted November 3 2009 at 6:28 AM.

can i just say, every one is saying the parents shouldnt be ok with this. but what god would i do to be angry and make her feel shame??? its too late! the baby is born!

i dont suggest they encourage this behaviour but i think its good they arent making her feel like crap. she obviously realises it was a mistake and they dont want to immediately go out and pump out more kids for the gov. benefit ( like some women :P).

making lemonade out of lemons...

By em. Posted November 3 2009 at 6:26 AM.

he isn't in love with her, that's what i think is sad. and after all she's 8 years younger than him - i think the marriage is doomed.
but i do not really condem the case itself. he thought she was 15 and didn't ask (and oh boy - i looked really different when i was 11), she didn't tell - not really a case of abuse. though i pity that she's going to leave school.

By sis. Posted November 3 2009 at 1:47 AM.

Someone should go in there and clean up that whole rotten village. What a bunch of sick people an 11 year old gets pregnant and it's OK with the parents," they're having a party next week", they're not ashamed even? I'd be so embarassed and I'd want that guy in jail and there is no way that child should raise any baby, in this country she can't even babysit yet. This is sick? That whole village is sick and THIS is what no education does. American girls should get a clue, they're no better these days.

By ljl765. Posted November 3 2009 at 12:52 AM.

Although the young lady gave birth to the baby,that do not give a guarantee to others to do the same, this means that the one given birth might not go to school, if the population of young children giving birth at such an age goes on growing,this might reduce the number of young generation getting educated, reason being she have to look after the baby and also might change the attitude of many young people knowing that it,s fair to give birth at such a young age. Therefore it,s not a great thing to do.

By jingoabdul. Posted November 2 2009 at 8:56 PM.

sorry but this is sick, I dont care what religion y ou are.. that girl is still a child herself, this is disgusting "!!! what type of people are they>> honestly!!!

By Orlaith. Posted November 2 2009 at 4:37 PM.

this is sick!!!
shouldt even be thinkin of havin sex at 11, dirty things

By lyyz. Posted November 2 2009 at 5:24 PM.

Comment part 2:

For many other cultures, and historically, children were/are married very young and became/become parents very young, around the world. Typically in cultures other than North American, we hear frequently of teenage girls becoming mothers. It may sound disheartening to imagine how much more mature and wise this girl could have become before starting a family if she had waited, but it is neither here nor there, since the child has already been born and the girl is already married.

Although I cannot imagine condoning child or teenage pregnancy in my future children, it's comforting to know that BOTH of the newborn's parents and BOTH of their parents have committed themselves and their lives to this family, to seeing that the child is raised well, to THEIR STANDARDS. That's not something that can always be claimed in many cases of single parents who also struggle with the absence of family support, at least in the U.S.

I find it very admirable that the priority of family is held in such high regard in many cultures around the world. I think much can be learned about that, from them.

So long as the parents of the newborn baby have continual family support and guidance from their relatives, one would hope that ALL of the children involved continue to live long, healthy and happy lives.

By Robyn. Posted November 2 2009 at 5:08 PM.

At first glance, this story seems to serve as a sad reminder of how short the childhood of another country/culture can be for their children.

In the United States (or at least in the Northeast united States) it is customary to enjoy childhood at least into early adolescence, when we begin our sex education programs.

Although the programs are continually opposed and argued over in our legislature, I think a majority of the U.S. population supports these programs, especially with the increasing, and confusing, exposure to sex in the media for these kids. This story serves as a perfect confirmation of our fears, about what can happen when ignorance steals innocence, and nature takes its course. Whether a person is pro-choice or pro-life, I think it is extremely difficult to relate to or judge this situation, if for no other reason than the fact that we all want to sympathize with this child.

From the perspective of a liberal, 20 something, woman pursuing a life with many more oppurtunities available, than children of low-income families of other cultures, I can't imagine having cut my own childhood short so young to raise a family. I can only think about how much more I've learned and experienced between then and now, and how much more ready I'll be to parent when I have my own children. But that is merely a reflection of the culture I've come from. Those are our ideals.

(comment part1)

By Robyn. Posted November 2 2009 at 5:07 PM.

The only difference between this and what happens across Europe is that this girl chose to give birth.Otherwise,in Czech Republic,Slovakia,Germany and even Britain, girls have sex and abortion as early as 10. and some idiots always talk of places like Africa as places where civilization is there. To tell you the truth, African girls start to have sex after 16 yrs and abortion is very very rare.
EU for you!

By Garigue Jiri. Posted November 2 2009 at 10:06 AM.

In my country he would be locked up for sure. But everyone has to realize that different cultures have different values. Yes this is so wrong in our eyes but not to his native country.

By James B from Bendigo, Vic, Australia. Posted November 2 2009 at 10:26 AM.

A 19 year old hooking up with an 11 year old??? She gives birth??? The parents are happy?? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU???

By Anna Banna. Posted November 2 2009 at 6:14 AM.

i dont think we have any right to judge either the father or the mother. She looks very happy and i hope her husband doesnt get sent to jail. He should be allowed to work to look after both wife and daughter.

I agree, there is a lot of abortions in the western world. I am very proud of this young girl because she is taking responsability for what she has done as well as her husband. I dont believe in abortions unless you can die or health risk to you. If its not then why kill someone that is trusting you to look after them. just because you dont wanna take responsibility you abort a child a human being. i believe we baby our children to much in the western world. not only that but we also are scared to show our children the right way hey we are not even allowed to hit our children anymore. wtf? children are running around killing people, graffiting, bashing others being in gangs and stuff.

my question is this..

wot is worse off? two people in love and creating life and choosing to look after the life they have been given or

letting children wild on the street bashing people, in gangs, drinking, and just being idiots?

By Anna . Posted November 2 2009 at 5:16 AM.

Im laughing at the English people here. Walk around the Estates in the UK and you will see this all common and normal. Look at the abortion rate in teens in the UK , only difference is this girl chose to have the child.

By Herc. Posted November 2 2009 at 4:18 AM.

I find it awful that she is still a baby herself and has had a child, let alone marry!!

The fact that this little girl has said that her daughter is her new "toy" is scary. Does she not realise that her new "toy" is a living human being. Im 20 and couldnt imagine being married or having a baby yet, and ive been in my relationship for a few years! to concieve within a week really does say it all, these kids need to realise what they've done. They shouldnt be shouting it around, instead they should be focusing on looking after their little girl.

By Laura. Posted November 2 2009 at 1:00 AM.

My My My and the Great British public show there true colours bigotry comments and small minded thinking is the making of this country whilst you all write ur poisonous venom think to urself this 11 yr old girl may not want to come to this god forsaken country c looking at this story i feel sad for her she does not realise the fact her life as she knew it is now over she is far too young one of the saddest cases of stolen youth i have ever seen shame on the mother 11yr olds ARE UR RESPONSIBILITY SHE SHOULD BE ASHAMED

By coco. Posted November 2 2009 at 12:16 AM.

As good hearted Gordon Brown would say:- Come join us in G.B. the tax payers will support you.

By elizabeth. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:42 PM.

Haha, your comments are funny - it's not immigrants who claim most benefits in Britain - it's lazy Brits who prefer to breed on the taxpayer cost instead of studying and then working. It's not our fault most Brits have three kids before they turn 18, so find somebody else to blame cos it's boring now, really...

By legal_immigrant. Posted November 1 2009 at 9:46 PM.

I think this is where education comes in. Unfortunately, many parents do not discuss sex with their kids.So it rests on the shoulders of teachers to enlighten the students. I do this in my classes and you will be surprised how little children know about sex and sexuality. I hope that teachers and parents will take the leap and discuss it more openly with their children. rather let us give them the information then let them find out elsewhere, in a detrimental manner.

By marcina. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:18 PM.

Can someone tell me this isn't true OMG mother of 11 how did that happen

By Jay. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:54 PM.

that is so wrong
The girls 11 and had a baby how is that right shes still a kid herself and the whole "i have a new toy "line proves it she has no grasp on what this means in the long run its not a toy its alife
and as for the grandparents thinking its okay or whatever thats ridiculous
the whole things so disgusting

By claire. Posted November 1 2009 at 7:48 PM.

Well aren't we the high and mighty, when will people learn that, we are all made different in gods eyes and it's ok not to be perfect.

By sandra sands. Posted November 1 2009 at 6:49 PM.

this is wrong !!! no child under 16 should be havin sex no matter where they live and as for gettin married before they even start school its absolutly discraseful !!! im a young mum im 19 but i work to provide for my family i rent my own home to keep my child worm and heathy, i dont think you should have children unless you know you can provide for them and they will be happy age is a number but in this care its the most imoprtant thing !!! having a baby knowin you cant provid for them its stupid !!! dont plan to come to the UK cause i already pay for everyone else that cant be bothered to work and that has children to claim from the job center its discraseful !!!!!!!!

By Amanda Lancaster. Posted November 1 2009 at 5:37 PM.

Our troops in Afghanistan are fighting to protect this sort if thing. Over there, old men have brides of 11+ and immediatley get them pregnant - despite a 50% chance the mother or child will die. At least its a crime in Bulgaria - lets just hope justice done.

By Damo. Posted November 1 2009 at 5:52 PM.

Words fail me....................................

By missy. Posted November 1 2009 at 5:51 PM.

well its a bit rich for us to say its bad is this and that, but lets look closer to home shall we?
we are the most stupid nation in Europe fact, most onfriendly nation for children, the most recist nation in Europe, so those idots saying they will come and claim benefit, as far as i am concern Bulgaria still has its population not all of them are here milking our bebefit, may be a bit of respect will help us understand how others think,

By john. Posted November 1 2009 at 5:12 PM.

i feel it for the kids its a vicious circle

By shaza. Posted November 1 2009 at 5:05 PM.

so glad i am living in a tax free country, because before you know it they be over to the uk claiming.
they should be given the implant or injection as soon as they attempt to enter the uk with all their kids rather than wads of cash to keep breeding. im sure it would all stop then...funny how u dont see any teen mums in the UAE or unmarried for that matter - they'd get locked up straight away!

By expat. Posted November 1 2009 at 4:26 PM.

They should come over here,draw the dole and get a council flat.Like thousands of others,leave it to the english taxpayer,Labour says its ok.

By les. Posted November 1 2009 at 3:19 PM.

I am slovakian and i have to say Thomas Maszarik is right. Gypsy girls usually look older than they are in reality. They have got sex so early because they see it at home. It happens all the time that the girls become pregnant at a very young age just because of the benefits. They have got no education, many kids and their chances of getting a job-if they want one-without any education are zero. Then you hear all the complaints about how poor they are, but the truth is you are responsible for your actions. If your parents dont teach you that education is more important than having kids with 13 nothing is going to change for you. I think people should be told that benefits shouldnt be the main source of income. Otherwise nothing is going to change for young girls/families who rely on money from the state. Its not breadwinning. It s a responsibility to have children.

By Katarina. Posted November 1 2009 at 2:31 PM.

dont quite know how to react to this article, a huge part of me is thinking oh my god would be devastated if that was my daughter but there is another part of me that thinks its their culture and their tradition to be married and have kids young... the fact is we have children in our own society having kids wen shoul be focusing on growing up not changing nappies. we also let 16years olds get married here which i think is too young, you dont know your own mind and goals at that age. to insult and pass judgment on one culture without looking at the faults in our own as well is a bit unfair

By claire. Posted November 1 2009 at 12:19 PM.

this is disgusting, however this is a completely different culture to ours, with no education and a completely different perpective. as the article says, both sets of parents and grandparents were married at 13. I recall several paper articles regarding very young parents in england aswell, where it is not our culture, there is no reason to not get an education, and there are no reasons or excuses other than lazy parents, benefits culture, and lack of morals. at least this family have family values of sorts, but i do agree it is not appropriate, let their own legal system sort it out

By S. Posted November 1 2009 at 11:22 AM.

Im canadian, so excuse the ignorance, but.. I think thomas was just stating fact, not opinion. And after having been to third world countries, I kinda understand.. they tend to be so poor, it ends up coming to this point, and of course there is a bit of tradition involved as well. Monkey see.. monkey do. The education isnt there.. if the little girl is seeing older girls coming onto men, this is what she will practice, without having the maturity and intelligence to difer possible outcomes of the situation. I had my daughter at 15, and it certainly wasnt her 21 year old father's fault, solely. Not to say what I did was right, but it did not click that I could possibly really, have a baby from doing this.. to me, it was just a way to make somebody I loved, happy. I was undereducated myself in that department. Parents didnt teach, etc. But with this situation, I think it is a combination of government, a tad bit of unrealised manipulation on the little girl's part, tradition (or, the past repeating itself) and of course, the father's highly inflated teenage sex-drive. Having a child in other countries like this is such a joy, I do understand the grandmothers being happy and proud, I mean..they've delt with this situation almost identical many times before, im sure, and what else can they do? They are happy by default for otherwise they would succumb to great despair.

By sarah. Posted November 1 2009 at 11:21 AM.

I am not convinced that she is only 11 and he is 19. They look older than that.

By Dflower. Posted November 1 2009 at 11:16 AM.

Don't worry about theirfuture they will soon be over here in the good old UK living on our welfare state.

By RED DAVE. Posted November 1 2009 at 11:18 AM.

What do you expect from a backward, misogynist culture
where women and girls are seen as nothing more than
man's properties?? Utterly disgusting!!

By Ninna. Posted November 1 2009 at 11:14 AM.

This is a shocking story, especially as my daughter will be eleven this month; however this young couple are part of a completely different culture to ours so it's wrong to judge them. Kordeza is very lucky to have a supportive mother and husband, and I wish her and her new family lots of luck and happiness.

By Emma Stokes. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:43 AM.

Its a different culture but even there this is being frowned upon so you can see its so shocking.
Frankly someone needs to reeducate over a period of time rather than running in and concentrating on one person. I just hope that it works out for her.

By Emma. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:38 AM.

we should all mind our own business and concentrate on sorting the uk out.Stop allowing mo netary migrants in and start looking after our own.Its okay sheltering migrants who are in fear of their lives in their own country but not somebody who has just come to scrounge,especially when the powers that be are threatening to cut benefits for people who have paid taxes and the likes when they are made redundant,it breeds contempt and i would even go as far as to say racism even though its not the migrants fault but respective governments who have allowed it to happen.

By denw123. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:29 AM.

By denw123. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:28 AM.

By denw123. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:27 AM.

How disgrac eful that those two grandmothers can say they are proud to have a grandchild when the mother of that child should be playing with friends not being a fulltime mum.i just hope the right actiln is taken agaisnt the 19 year old who should of maybe kept it well zipped up and not had sex with a minor how will that child cope if he does get a custodial sentence is that agreat start to life for their baby i think not why cant children stay as children why do they want to start makking babies

By angela patterson. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:15 AM.

This is Terrible , the girl is only a child , that is it her life over now before it began , and the father saying he wants his child to have an Education , he married a child , the Law needs to be changed , to stop all those unwanted Orphans , god Bless them .

By margaret. Posted November 1 2009 at 10:14 AM.

Utter madness,very weird people,feel sorry for the very defenceless little girl,its not the 14th century nor is it some fairytale romance.Totally crass upbringing and adding even more distaste of the 'Roma people',yawn!I suggest you 'Roma people clean up your act,otherwise everyone in Europe will end up hating you.

By james. Posted November 1 2009 at 9:46 AM.

What in the world, her teenage husband would be classed as a paedo here, and they believe it is alright in their country, I thought we had the wakiest country going, am I dreaming, cause someone wake me up!!!!!!

By Debbie. Posted November 1 2009 at 9:31 AM.

19 year old having sex with an 11 year old! Pure sick. These children are not ablke to understand their bodies at that age. Sickening that this actually goes on!

By Minipeach. Posted November 1 2009 at 9:28 AM.

Why lock him up? After all there were two involved. From her picture she certainly does not look like an 11 year old. It is not disgusting but disturbing - at the age of 19 the husband and father has to take on the responsibility of a wife and child and at 11 she has to give up her childhood. But then have children who grew up in this situation ever had a childhood? This is where society has to start - a decent enough home, a better education, a future to look forward to, not just showing our disgust and blaming everyone else.

By Lynst. Posted November 1 2009 at 9:37 AM.

I personally find this revolting (sorry for the poor spelling). The boy is now worried that he will go to jail? He should have kept it in his pants then. If we are not careful this will become the norm for here and when I say that I mean every day an 11yr old will be giving birth and the grandparents will be posing all happy and smiling.

By Tally. Posted November 1 2009 at 9:35 AM.

it wont be long before they are here, living in comparative luxury.

By shirley. Posted November 1 2009 at 9:38 AM.

Was that child delivered using cooking tongs?

what the devil is that rather unhealthy looking dent in the babie's forehead....needs examined at once to ensure baby is OK.

This is simply disturbing on many levels.
If their country is indeed now part of EU,perhaps they can make some society changes to help prevent this,that child would have been 10 when conceived,which is simply incredible.Does noone over there care about these things?

By kenneth mckenzie. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:57 AM.

Thats how it happens in Bulgaria
Particularly in the Sliven area !
No 1 area for women of the night !

Anyhow good luck to the child (both)
Life will be very tough for them and they need support not criticism now !

By Tony. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:48 AM.

By Tony. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:45 AM.

Ok, Beth. You dont find it disgusting that a 19 year old has sex with an 11 year old?

Yes we must be the idiots.

By Gary. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:25 AM.

let them come to this country, labour will swap house & money for votes!!

By maris. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:16 AM.

Good luck to them . They are happy , their parents are happy and their grandparents are happy.
The baby is very fortunate to have such a loving extended family

If that were Britain, the unborn baby would have been sucked out like a piece of detritus , the father would have been jailed and the girl would have been totally traumatised as a 'victim' and taken into care , probably to be abused by 'carers'. The parents and grandparents might have been prosecuted and they would have all been called 'paedophiles' and been hounded out

Just look at the happy smiling faces and a happy live baby and tell me it's 'disgusting', as many have posted.

The people here who say it is disgusting are brainwashed idiots.

By Beth , Maidstone. Posted November 1 2009 at 8:04 AM.

agree with janet and thomas. lived and worked in romania for 2yrs. although noones likes to validate stereotypes or agree with discrimination they come around for a reason. That 11yr old will certainly not be encouraged to go to school by her mum or grandmother. Roma are not oblivious to what theyre doing and must accept responsibility for what happens. The distrust has evolved over time as people have given them chances and they blew them. Of course there will be a minority who are honest and deserve chances, but when employers etc have been screwed over so many times its very hard for them to see the wood thru the trees and to pick these roma out. ideally if the government made the ''milk'' sour then perhaps the roma wouldnt be so quick to bleed them dry and would make more of an effort to sustain work and gain an education.

By guccinemesis. Posted November 1 2009 at 7:45 AM.

I am English but live here in Romania the problem is the same but it is rubbish that people are bleating about Roma - I had a bar in Bucharest and employed two Roma on equal rates I liked them but they stole from me- I am not an exception it happens eveywhere in Romania you cannot blame people for not employng them.They do have many many children and fill the orphanges with them which gave Romania a bad name all my Romanian friends have one child which they struggle to give a good education to. The Roma are a problem they are not all bad but as you watch the news of crimes committed and arrest made it is mostly Roma.I agree about the discrimination but it is not without substance - but then you will say it is discrimination that causes the problems,but when people have been bitten once and they are poor what do you expect. These people are not English who will let people cheat them many times with English stoicism

By Janet Ross. Posted November 1 2009 at 7:19 AM.

See you on the underground.

By Neville. Posted November 1 2009 at 7:01 AM.

Thomas, you should be ashamed. These people live this way because of the discrimination meted out to them. Who there would give them permanent jobs? Who would pay them properly? If they had that option I am sure they would prefer it. I don't agree with this little girl having a baby. It may be their culture of hundreds of years, I don't know. But that I disagree with it will make no difference to it. What I do think is that with her love of mathematics she could be someone, get a great job, work in a university, anything she chooses. I just hope her mother and mother in law understand that and encourage her to go to school, to finish school and keep going to college; even if and especially if her husband is going to be in jail. She has the aptitude to change her living circumstances

By Dawn. Posted November 1 2009 at 3:08 AM.

its sooo bad a baby having a baby, what has this world come to?

By lisa. Posted November 1 2009 at 12:25 AM.

To Thomas:
If your society gave them an opportunity to be equal to you,they might even get a better education and normal jobs,but they have been discriminated and given only the worst jobs that no other Slovak(even without any education)will do.
My point is,any government has to DO more about this people,they have to invest in better education,social help, and tougher laws.

By Vlad. Posted October 31 2009 at 11:49 PM.

Thomas, probably if there was not so much racism and discrimination against Romanys in Slovakia they would be allowed in school and get an education. I was shocked at the inhuman treatment meted out to Romanys on my first visits to Eastern Europe.

By mikalis. Posted November 1 2009 at 12:11 AM.

All i can say is that if this country is part of the EU then the countrys girls and boys need help straight away, my heart goes out to the little girl, and lets face it that is what she is,, her so called husband must have know she was not 15, he would have known she was younger for how under developed she was, the goverment of all the countries have a lot to bloody answer for but instead they line there pockets with the money we work our backsides for. But lets face it how long before it is the norm,, for here in England, we have girls having babies to, are on the dole for most of there working life, then the cycle goes round so there daughters do the same,,,are we as a country really any different

By Michelle . Posted November 1 2009 at 12:19 AM.

There's not a lot you can say about this apart from it being disgusting. This is a child barely into puberty having another child that she can teach nothing to and will barely be able to look after. I hope they lock him up!

By clarissaX. Posted October 31 2009 at 11:39 PM.

And this is a country that joined the EU?!?!?!
Ridiculous,with all the EU funding and grants they receive surely they can improve,but for some reason I dont think is ever gonna happen...Ever..Its always gonna stay this way.I feel sorry for the gypsies to be honest,they havent been given a fair share of decent life,they have always been classed as the lowest of the low and that is sad..

By bjorn. Posted October 31 2009 at 11:39 PM.

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