The problem is that you British do not know that there are different rules for different immigrants in this country.
Immigrants from EU currently can come into UK “to look for a jobs” and when they can not find it may be because they DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH - THEY can seat and claim job seekers allowance and they do not need a passport for this! UK has to train policeman to speak Polish in some places so criminals who came hear from EU could understand their rights! Or how about this new scum when they claim that their boyfriend was violent and this Polish and Lithuanian women going to refuges and then are the first to get a new house and they do not need a passport for that! They can claim a child benefit for a child who has never even lived in this country and they do not need a passport for this! Can you tell me this – what other EU country is so generous?
But this is completely ok that my husband has brought me hear from the Ukraine after 5 years of marriage with our children and I had no rights to work for one year and claim child benefit for my children who actually got British citizenship through their birth not as I wanted to claim your benefits but this is unfair that you lot judging all of us the same!

By Svetlana.. Posted August 5 2009 at 9:37 AM.

Why should the British now complaint about people acquiring citizenship in their country? That's being selfish especially that they colonised the immigrant's countries and now they want a piece of their cake from the colonial masters.

By Mike Cole.. Posted August 4 2009 at 7:09 AM.

This means most of skilled non-EC migrants will leave the UK when recession ends and good oppotunities appear.
The only advantage in immigration to the UK for skilled professionals WAS that passport promised to be given relatively quickly. If not, there are better countries with better salaries, bigger houses, better climate and accountable immigration authorities. There will be no foreign doctors, programmers, engineers and scientists.
All the other migrants appart from skilled professionals will stay here since they have no choise.

By Skilled Migrant.. Posted August 3 2009 at 11:32 PM.

This means most of skilled non-EC migrants will leave the UK when recession ends and good oppotunities appear.
The only advantage in immigration to the UK for skilled professionals WAS that passport promised to be given relatively quickly. If not, there are better countries with better salaries, bigger houses, better climate and accountable immigration authorities. There will be no foreign doctors, programmers, engineers and scientists.
All the other migrants appart from skilled professionals will stay here since they have no choise.

By Skilled Migrant.. Posted August 3 2009 at 11:31 PM.

I am British and proud of it but the truth is that we will only discourage skilled workers and encourage scroungers with this policy. Maybe the government should look at putting the British people into a position where they can get decent jobs by offering real training. As a young man I spent 4 years doing an apprenticeship but when my sons have tried to get the same it has been impossible because the burden is placed wholly on the employer. We must as a nation stop giving to people who are not willing to put anything back into our society and that is not about race or country of origin it is about all the people who have no intention of ever working legally because they are better off on benefits. Let’s move the focus away from immigration and onto training and bringing in the necessary skills we need. I now work abroad because the taxes in England mean I have no opportunity to improve my social standing. Anyone coming to England for a better life must be in a bad way.

By K Mac.. Posted August 3 2009 at 6:58 PM.

I can't understand only one thing in such a tendency. Are they understand that instead of improving situation in the UK they rather make it worse.

Let's say I'm professional immigrant with higher education and good professional experience. What option I'll choose: UK with 10 years and unpredictable rules or other countries which is more loyal to immigrants (e.g. Australia, Canada)?

Second option I'm jobless non-professional from pure country without education. I would better live in UK and claim on benefits then living in my own country. There is not a bog deal 5 or 10 years for me.

In total we have reduced number of first migrants and comparative increase of the second.
And British citizens who are studiously working to feed the migrants from the second category.

By KMaks.. Posted August 3 2009 at 9:32 AM.

well here we are again immigrants im sick to my back teeth about it all i dont know what the hell the goverment has done but it certainly has caused alot of bad feeling i by no means agree to war or blood shead but immigrants they do get get get and what have we to do sit back and take it well i am a born and bred in this country and anything i have ive worked for but what do you have with immigrants they do get all thats going too easy ive seen it and it makes me sooo dam angry when i started with my own wee FLAT not HOUSE i had to depend on my family they do come into this country and get everything new ive been on the housing list over 25yrs and im still in a masonette how come immigrants can come into this country and walk into new builds there is something big wrong i am now at a stage where i will be in contact with my mp the goverment are not treating me like second class citizen no more ive got alot of issues that i will be looking into as ive had enough

By Lesley gilligan.. Posted August 3 2009 at 4:46 AM.

Today I have read the news about british passport points scheme. Just wondering why not British govt. simply stop issuing passports? and implement rules like Dubai No passport and just work permit till death lolz. British Govt. is just collecting taxes from foreigners and show finger crossed sign to foreign workers lolz. They already implemented rigrous restrictions on overseas students and HSMP skilled workers. Their education industry will be affected by their wrong decision. Sweden, Norway, and Denmark have opened their doors to overseas students, free education for all, course medium of instruction is in english, and even Denmark has started immigration green card system for High Skilled wokers and students. I think Canada is best place to live for high skilled workers because they give Indefinite visa to high skilled workers in 6 weeks of landing and provide nationality after 3 years. Every one is entitle to get social benefits in canada.

By James Watt.. Posted August 2 2009 at 8:50 PM.

It always cracks me up when I read something like "immigrants take benefits" and this hits our economy. It is as true as saying "night is dark because someone turns off the sun" lol. I'm immigrant and for last 3 years I met many many Britons who just claimed benefits and didn't work at all (immigrants are not allowed to take benefits other than Child Benefit and Working Tax Credit). Just livin' in council homes, making more babies and having fun at local disco/pubs! I got couple mates who also are immigrants and some of them can't even speak english - how on earth someone whos native language is english CAN'T find a job and someone who can't speak english CAN find a job? Well, if someone doesn't want go to work, any excuse is good, isn't?

By Sebastian.. Posted August 2 2009 at 8:29 PM.

I do feel sorry for the Aussie girl, because an awful lot of Aussies do have the right of return, they only need to have one British born grandparent. Maybe you should marry your boyfriend then surely you could stay. British born Asians marry their cousins thru arranged marriages all the time and bring them back here to live. So surely you would have the same right to stay here then?

By Philip Wild.. Posted August 2 2009 at 8:09 PM.

they need to take control of this immigration problem but what they should do is send back all the trouble maker and the ones that do not want to work and living off the government. they are honest people, who work hard and pay taxes, and because of circumstance have never gotten any tax return and are living in private homes,so take control of the problem but do not make good honest people suffer because of the bad ones

By leslie.. Posted August 2 2009 at 7:05 PM.

Quote: 'Already we require people earn the right to become citizens by paying taxes, speaking English and obeying the law.

Since when has this so-called requirement been in place?
I know people who can't speak english & do not need to as their communities speak for them, they may work 30 hours per week while their wife stays home & live a nice life on working tax credit, child benefit & obeying the law? We all read about a new crime commited every day.
Will this work?
I don't believe so.

By anom.. Posted August 2 2009 at 6:23 PM.

The UK is seriously messed up. There is no future over here. Something very basic like education is crap over here. The education system over here ensures people end up in a dead end. There are so many young people with no motivation and opportunities. Those idiots who want to come here really have no idea of life here. In the UK people live to work. In other countries people WORK to LIVE!
Over here crime is higher than the USA. That kind of says it all!! The American education system also ensures people get somewhere. There's none of this nonsense GCSE and A Levels and GNVQ's over in the states, just quality broad education.

By Neil the Wiseman.. Posted August 2 2009 at 5:51 PM.

Andy I appreciate what you are saying but I am trained in a job that doesn't really exist in Australia. I interned for 5 years unpaid whilst working other low paid jobs to survive. There is nothing for me there.

I have done nothing but pay tax (can't claim a penny) and a observe the laws. I have been an active contributing member of society.

My point is I am confused how any European has the right to work and live in this country but Australia (still part of the colony) means nothing.
Britain has used us since the days of the First Fleet. My god British commanders sent hundreds of thousands of Australian and NZ boys to their deaths in WW1. We came to your aid straight away in WW2.
We still have a representative of the Queen in Australia and part of our taxes go to the Crown!

Believe me Andy, I am not a threat to you.

By Fiona.. Posted August 2 2009 at 4:43 PM.

This country needs to learn to appriciate immigrants. they work hard and pay thier taxes. This country is held in place by foriegners. Mr brown why dont you do a trail run of this for 24hrs and see which result you get. Tell all those who are foriengners to not go to work for 24hrs{including those who got their citizenship} and see how many true brits you will have working. try it pls.

By ladys.. Posted August 2 2009 at 4:14 PM.

Mark, the point is that they WON'T be allowed benefits until they have citizenship. They are getting rid of the "indefinite leave to stay" policy they have now so they no longer have the same rights so financial support that we do until they have contributed equally. Regardless of human rights, if they don't pass they have to leave.

By KK.. Posted August 2 2009 at 3:58 PM.

I for one and many others would love for all the non EEA workers to not turn up for work just for a week.Can you imagine what would happen in the country.On my list would be drs, nurses, teachers,social workers, care assistants in the nursing homes,engineers, pharmacist, cleaners, lawyers,post staff, soldiers, pilots,train and tube drivers, bankers accountants OT and physios speech and language therapist, dieticans and IT staff.You are all so ungrateful as these people have been paying taxes which many of u are getting as benefits.Some of these people were recruited by uk companies from thier countries.Several NHS trust are going to India, the philiphines,SA to recruit staff.If there are so many brits who can do these jobs can you stop these companies.Do ur research before you spill out rubbish out of ur mouth.
Some of you now blame the recession for being unemployed and yet have never been employed, you are the ones who fake illness for me to sign u of work.You can not hold jobs down because of ur asbo behavoiur, and the love of the drinking culture.Get an education the recession will soon end and those with qualifications will be able to get back in the rat race to pay for those who can not face going to work because they are lazy and unpatriotic. Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude. Thomas Jefferson.

By emmy.. Posted August 2 2009 at 3:47 PM.

who want to be british anyway! lovely weather? (oh ..yeah the sun always shinning) safe to walk down the street? ...oh and the lovely future of british who got no respect for anyone including their parents. and the tax we r paying!?? also TV license ... the only country i know that people hav to pay license to watch TV. and all the other taxation ..i dont know about u but i'mout of here.

By kc.. Posted August 2 2009 at 2:37 PM.

i am sick of all those who complain about immigrants they do all the jobs that the small majority of brits do not want to do, brits go all over the world and work , if brits do not want immigrants then close your boarder's live in a vacuum, people will always use excuses when times are tough ,immigrants pay tax something that some people have never done in this country sit on their fat asses all day and claim benefits that we pay for by getting up and working for a living not demand ,money you have not worked for and to make matter's worse have endless children when you are unemployed

By aldrin chindendere.. Posted August 2 2009 at 2:35 PM.

everyone out there don't get you hopes high to curb this already out of control situation. in the morning you will read a different head, line to say plans have been scrapped as its against so and so's human rights etc....

By devinder.singh.. Posted August 2 2009 at 2:27 PM.

To F.Zyberi, don't think you have the last laugh, we can still deport you, there are "loopholes". I know i've seen it happern,:)

By Oliver.. Posted August 2 2009 at 2:15 PM.

Immigration has been happening for centuries. People move to paces where they will be more happy. We do it, we move to spain, austrailia, southern france etc

The base line is immigration was essential for the econony in the ninties and early 2000s. Most british are normal folk. As are most people who origins lie elsewhere.

I dont know why people become uncomfortable when they see something different.
Now that some lose their jobs lets blame someone. Let the government blame someone and show that they are taking action.

I find the people that really moan about immigration are ones that arent really happy within themselves. Even if they lived in a country of only brtish people they'd still be moaning about something!
Lets find love and peace within ourselves!

By steve.. Posted August 2 2009 at 1:16 PM.

some ordinary young men organised a protest march here where I live, against the very large influx of eastern europeans here and have been warned by the police. It seems that the only protestors allowed to protest are the non english - the english just get warned, and watched. the others like those muslims in luton protesting at the soldiers return home march just got away with it.

By shirley.. Posted August 2 2009 at 1:24 PM.

DO not forget that you use the same passport to travel around the world and cause chaos with your
drinking culture and so you have colonised many nations so swallow your pride BRITS!!!

By charles Bacela.. Posted August 2 2009 at 12:41 PM.

I think everybody should be able to live where they want to live. People who complain about foreigners taking their jobs need to stop feeling sorry for themselves, get off their arses and actually DO something! The attitude towards immigrants in this country makes me so ashamed to be British.

By Katy.. Posted August 2 2009 at 12:09 PM.

This is a small island
enough is enough.We don't want any more immigrants full stop.No more citizenship. all illegals to be deported.No asylum seekers of any kind
Then we should look at allowing carefully managed immigration if needed.

By Mick.. Posted August 2 2009 at 11:54 AM.

Just close the borders completely to all immigrants.Problem solved and not having to worry about human rights once they are in the country

By steve.. Posted August 2 2009 at 12:04 PM.

More spin from Liebour, of course it will all come to nothing. They've had 10 years to drive a hole through Britain's borders that the dambusters would have been proud of. They are hardly likely to do anything about it now - Oh, hold on, there's an election next year.

By Andy Davids.. Posted August 2 2009 at 11:33 AM.

To Fiona the aussie/greek
And So? you have to obey the rules like everyone else, what about brits in oz? its people like you that should not be here, you have a job which you poke in my face is earning you 29 i am british and unemployed because people like you take the jobs, you work for a charity, charity begins at home, our home, britain, so go and work in your own country, you complain about 2 years, you chose to come here, you paid to come here and you knew after 2 years you would have to return, I am unemployed not by choice but through redundancy, people like you make me sick, good on the government for taking a stand, they get me vote and you get out

By andy.. Posted August 2 2009 at 11:26 AM.

i ve spent sometime in your country when i reliezed you guys lost your morals i ve left the country and believe me in few years time you will be emegrant your selves carry on you doing a good job

By annabamarsa.. Posted August 2 2009 at 11:25 AM.

in response to sceptic,
i cant remember the exact article i think its somewhere in article 8 and 12 of the human rights act 1998, the act of denying you're sons wife a visa is a violation of the human rights act. the human rights act clearly states that we have the right to family life, so buy denying her a visa and thus seperating the family this can be seen as an infringment of this right,
i would give you more detail but i dont have any of my materials with me as i am at work but im a university graduate with LLB hons and i am sure that you have a legitimate claim if taken to the ECHR

By zack.. Posted August 2 2009 at 11:30 AM.

I cannot believe you have all these immigration laws in place but someone like myself, an Australian has absolutely no rights to live in this country.

I've been here for two years on a Working Holiday visa and I don't ever want to leave.
You would think that as an Aussie there's the op to stay. Oh no. I have to apply for a different visa but as I do not hold a degree (despite having a job where I earn £29+) I’m not applicable.

You talk of integration but here you have a prime case. I've listened to British music since my early teens, always watched 90% British TV, I take a huge interest in the politics, and I work for a charity.

I know who Nora Batty is, "tatty bye", enjoy delicacies such as baked beans, chips and smoked mackerel. I probably know more about WW2 than you and have quickly latched onto the very black humour that identifies this country.

Basically, in me you have a Brit in the body of a Greek with the accent of an Australian. I've completely integrated into the society but apparently it all counts for nothing.

I have to the leave the UK at the end of this month and I swear you are ripping my heart out. This feels like heartbreak but 10x worse because my whole life is being turned upside down. My job is gone, my beautiful boyfriend, the lovely housemates I have, the wonderful friends I've made up and down the country? All gone.

And then you read of people like Omar Bakri and Anjem Choudary who have all the rights under the sun...

By Fiona.. Posted August 2 2009 at 11:01 AM.

Close the boder, leave the EU. No freedom of speech before your get the British and you can do so after you become British. One rule and one standard for the Britoish and the other set of non-British whob are here in the UK.

Would the Home starts to worry about they have in brach of some EU Human Rights law here?

OK, a law case all the way to EU Human Court would override this.

By Peter Chan.. Posted August 2 2009 at 10:59 AM.

"A Home Office source said: "Points could be deducted for those who fail to integrate into British life. This would be anti-social behaviour."

Isn't anti-social behaviour a part of British life?

By Adu.. Posted August 2 2009 at 10:47 AM.

Another great move by Labour after the lax policies for years by the Tories who encouraged immigration as a ay of cheap labour to undercut what they paid to British workers.
Tories always talk tough but in the end its Labour who come up trumps.

By Michael Davenport.. Posted August 2 2009 at 10:21 AM.

People have the right to protest, I thought we had free speech?

Same as I accept some people like football, others don't.

Mr Johnson is a bit of a dolt, to be honest.

Sorry to be so brutal but that's the truth.

By Simon Wesley.. Posted August 2 2009 at 10:04 AM.

We all have freedom of speech, we are entitled to our opinions even if it is considered unpatriotic at times. What is considered patriotic and unpatriotic these days? As it is Britain has become a joke with all the immigrants there is here and there are more and more comming in everyday. Simple solution to this is to brick up the channel tunnel.

By Lorna Wanstall.. Posted August 2 2009 at 9:54 AM.

About time, but unfortunately at least ten years too late. I am glad I got out when I did, but it is painful to see the country that my ancestors built and fought for going to the dogs.

By Happy in Sweden.. Posted August 2 2009 at 9:54 AM.

My son, six years ago, whilst working in Spain met a lovely girl from the Ukraine and they were married and they are blissfully happy, they now have a son aged seventeen months who has a British Passport.

My son is now back working in the UK but unfortunately his son and his wife cannot be with him because his wife cannot get a Visa to gain entry into to the UK.

In summary we have a lovely wife and mother from the Ukraine who wants to take her son to join her husband in the UK, her husband is a British born Citizen with their baby, who is also a British Citizen and possesses a British Passport but his wife and his baby is unable to be with him in England because his wife, although married for six years, cannot obtain a Visa to gain entry into the UK.

Can anyone please help or advise me how to overcome this totally unfair problem so that this lovely family can be together.

Sceptic

By Sceptic.. Posted August 2 2009 at 9:52 AM.

So all they have to do is PRETEND to be patriotic and they are in? This country is going to collapse.

By Lorraine.. Posted August 2 2009 at 9:17 AM.

That is a subjective criteria are you patriot. The 76th largest landmass in the world has the 8th largest population.

Labour have failed everyone by freely giving away passports like gifts from a lucky bag.

By steve tea.. Posted August 2 2009 at 8:47 AM.

about time too. lets extend it to people like the one above thats laughing because he already has one and take it away! he wont be laughing then. we are sick and tired of people like this.

By margaret.. Posted August 2 2009 at 8:28 AM.

The UK has a long history of tolerating peaceful protest. Citizenship should NOT be denied to people merely because they have demonstrated against wars the UK is involved in. On the contrary, this shows that they will be active citizens willing to get involved in important issues. Democracy is not just about voting for MPs -- it's also about making one's voice heard.

By Gerry.. Posted August 2 2009 at 8:33 AM.

No they wont. This is just another soundbite from a government in it's death throes, desperate to be seen to be doing something. We've heard it all before NuLab, you're all bark and no bite. The sooner this rotten shower is consigned to the dustbin of history the better.

By Nuffy.. Posted August 2 2009 at 8:29 AM.

As an expat it would concern me born in the Royal county and married to an ozzie i would hate to think my partner would be judge on her behaviour as the culture difference are massive and im still adjusting to all of the difference between here and there. And if we decide to move back to the UK to be judged because of that i think it sad that they can't use the same system as of here.

By ozexpat.. Posted August 2 2009 at 7:50 AM.

I am a born englishman who served 13 years in the royal marines and spent a further 30 years selling English made machinery into southern african countries. As such I lived in South Africa and still do.
I visit England every two years to see my family there but my wife of twenty three years cannot get an English passport and now requires a visa to visit her in-laws and blood son and daughter in law who reside in England.

She was born during the age when S Africa was a British Diminion and her first husband was of scotish decent. She worked with me for twenty years selling UK manufactured machinery.

Seems to me if one is a loyal and respectful person one gets nowhere with the English authorities. I have to move back to England and live there with my wife for three years before she can apply for a passport. (That's the last I was told some year ago)

She visits every year to see her son, his wife and two grandchildren who suffer with polycystic kidney desease and are monitored daily. She now needs a visa every year that reqires a ten page document and a personal interview.

It certainly did't pay me to be a loyal servant to the UK.

By Jim Caunter.. Posted August 2 2009 at 6:41 AM.

All immigrants should by law have to embrace British culture; for once in a decade I am in agreement with the government although it is too little too late.

By MackemEd.. Posted August 2 2009 at 6:24 AM.

And about time that something was done to curb the influx of anti-British immigrants. It sickens me to read of the incidents where immigrants glad to enjoy he freedom and generosity of the British then set about destroying the daily lives of those who live by the law. The countries which they have left behind wouldn't tolerate it for one moment, so why should the British put up these drop-outs.
David Luetchford
Noosa Australia

By David Luetchford.. Posted August 2 2009 at 4:28 AM.

hahahaha
2 late now got one........

By f.zyberi.. Posted August 2 2009 at 3:12 AM.

Too little too late Mr Brown you have already done the damage.
Does anyone really believe a word this government says anymore? This country is on the side of the terrorists? Name another country what keeps them on the dole and houses and feeds there children because of their HUMAN RIGHTS!!!

By Mark.. Posted August 2 2009 at 2:20 AM.

So Mr Johnson what about those who are here illigally those are the real treat to our country.you Either deport all of them or you allow them to intergrete fully,by legalising them,that the only way to tackle that issue,it cannot be ingore like that.

By helen page.. Posted August 2 2009 at 1:30 AM.

It is a good news but taking over control of border and over hauling the illegal workers will be more welcoming

By Rasak Adeoye.. Posted August 2 2009 at 12:27 AM.

I thought being a yob-ASBO was part of being british? such a joke!

By abs.. Posted August 2 2009 at 12:08 AM.

this is GREAT news, I'm so happy to hear that finally this country is getting stronger and will not be allowing people to constantly take advantage of it's liberal society. we've got enough yobs at it is so we don't need to be importing foreign ones.

By George Bradford.. Posted August 1 2009 at 11:37 PM.

So, by "protesting against British troops" does that mean protesting against the actual troops themselves or protesting against a war? Protesting IS patriotic, it shows you care about the good of your country.

By William Baillie.. Posted August 1 2009 at 11:13 PM.

So protesting is now to be considered unBritish? Perhaps Mr Johnson would prefer to move to a country more in keeping with his view of democracy - Iran perhaps?

By David Russell.. Posted August 1 2009 at 10:02 PM.