ASBO PARENTS SENT TO CLASS

I disagree with this parental training becasue some families may instill in their children from a young age how to behave; but their teaching has slowly been fazed out from other influences that are out of the parents sight and grasp. It could be other children or things that young people tend to learn along the way to maturity. Dont get me wrong i am fully aware there are some plain rotton children, but just beacsue you cannot find a soulution the parents should not get the flack. Maybe attempt to look at deeper phychological issues that may be totally unrelated to family happenings. I further disagree to the assumption that it is just people who are on benifits. Yes there is proof children 'not kids' who are of lesser finanacial families do turn to criminal behaviour but you must also take into considersation that other people who have been raised in financially well of families still contribute to dangers and crimimal activity on the streets. I dont beileve that anybody should be able to have such a blazae attitude to parents and make insensitive comments just beacsue this article doent apply to your family or child. I am a student suprising for some of you and No i dont have a child but i feel that in the society we are in today we need to advance with the times and stop lablelling it is so primative.

By Mel.. Posted October 21 2009 at 8:53 PM.

So we get the "Stop the benefits" idiots again! The other posts are saying how can you control a child when all forns of punishment are now frowned on or illigal (remember they are talking about shouting around children now). You can not smack,shout,ground (stop them walking out) or punish them by but sending them to bed with no dinner (child abuse). Its a rod created by the government and then they blame parents.

By Adam.. Posted July 2 2009 at 6:30 PM.

Another no action load of rot which will not happen.This so called govenment will not even drag a convicted murderer up from the cells to the dock to recieve his or her sentence if they dont want to go!! and don,t forget the get out clause,the word could! parents could be told to attend,how about useing the word will!

By s.monk.. Posted June 28 2009 at 7:31 PM.

I brought my kids up the right way and they were angels until there last school. They got in with a bad crowd because of the lack of discipline in schools. Once that had happened all hell broke loose and my daughter accused us of hitting her and rang social services because we grounded her. After a full 17 week investigation there was no case to answer, end of. Now my daughter just rings them if she does not get her own way and round they come to investigate us again. The State fails to protect children who need protecting yet pokes its nose in when in should not. Time to bring this Government down.

By Carl warmington.. Posted June 28 2009 at 5:45 PM.

The problem is control has shifted from adults to children. When I was growing up you didn't disrespect adults because they would tell your parents and we'd get in trouble. Nowadays, if you dare tell a parent their child is behaving in an inappropriat manner, you are likely to be verbally assaulted and the child will be molly coddled in case you have hurt their feelings. Children are growing up with a grand sense of entitlement and each successive generation is getting worse. Bring back ageism I say, where the older (and wiser) you are, the more respect you recieve.

By Mary.. Posted June 28 2009 at 5:10 PM.

How does a parent make a teenager change their behaviour,sanctions open to my parents are frowned upon and a classic good hiding vilified,school punishments are detentions given out for things that got lines given for in my day and suspension given for what would've been a detention offence and the cane totally gone.There is a total lack of respect in all of society and deference to peoples human rights,which I suspect could also be used by parents to prevent sanctions,why should they be held liable for the actions of someone else of legal liability age.

Parents are always blamed,why ? I've four children all brought up the same way and their behaviour varies my two eldest have just got through school with out any major trouble,though my youngest two whilst not in trouble has yet have exhibited signs and social services don't want to know until something happens,so even asking for help is useless and if something happens they'll want to prosecute me.I've tried my best ,asked for help,not got it,yet you want me to take all the blame for it,i can try to keep the kids in but I can't physically stop them,parents who aren't bothered seem to have less worries than those of us who care.

By Darren.. Posted June 28 2009 at 9:56 AM.

Tough talking really? Just another load of hot air and pre-election posturing. Cut all benefits and rights until their behaviour changes.

By steve tea.. Posted June 28 2009 at 8:51 AM.

Parenting Orders, Parenting contracts call them what you like they have been around for ages as one of the govenments "tools" for dealing with asb, only problem is they are voluntary not compulsory - you cannot force a bad parent to train to be a good one - no chance - not unless you attach a ceasessation of benefit clause - how about that Labour!!

By tracey.. Posted June 28 2009 at 8:38 AM.

I again wonder at the wisdom of the experts suggesting how a child/teenager can be taught to mend their ways. Where is the intervention at say five years old when behavioural patterns already well established can be guided in the right direction? It has been proven that there is a much greater chance of potential with proper boundaries at the early intervention stage, in order to prevent or at least reduce this 'Yobbish' culture that is so prevelant in today's society?

By Mother of Two.. Posted June 28 2009 at 6:05 AM.

Maybe some MP'S should do the same after all they are asbo's for robbing the tax payer

By Da1.. Posted June 28 2009 at 5:43 AM.

Steady on. I normally sign only cheques and the odd application form, occasionally. I can understand why our signature is required here, ie because a "parenting order is not a punishment" (therefore our authorisation is necessary in the form of consent before these people can help us); but I don't understand from reading this article exactly when our signature is required ie before or after an ASBO?

Personally, I wouldn't want to sign and authorise anything I may not be able to honour, especially not the imposition of a £1000 fine.

By Mrs.Josephine Hyde-Hartley.. Posted June 28 2009 at 3:33 AM.

ridiculous - now sorry but most of these kids are from unemployed parents on benefits anyway. Not all of them but the stats show that most juvenile crime is committed by kids reaised on benefits. so you fine them and they wont be paying it anyway - as for classes they either wont go or they will go and it will not make any difference to them- this is generational, its not just about poor behaviour its also about those that dont "misbehave illegally" but get pregnant instead and do nothing with their lives. Look at that Alfie Patten and Chantelle story she is a prime example of the culture they are raised in - no stupid 12 wk parenting class is going to change what has been instilled in these ppl since birth and the ppl around them in their everyday lives.

By lea.. Posted June 28 2009 at 12:37 AM.