Too late to save these devil kids
WHEN did it happen that we became scared of our kids?
At what point did adults stop ticking off badly behaved children on the street for fear of being knifed, raped, abused or reported to the police?
And how come a society that prides itself on its liberalism and its freedoms - which boasts about taking care of the weak and the vulnerable - is now so terrified of its children that it hides from them and is unable to control them because The System won't allow it?
The fact is, this Government's refusal to tackle child criminality - to accept that radical action is needed to save "devil children" like those two Doncaster boys who tortured and nearly murdered two lads from their estate - has given the green light to armies of little savages who just laugh at the law.
Evil
And they're laughing because they know that no one has the will, the guts or the power to use it against them.
This Government's limp-wristed laws and incentives have empowered children to the point where they can't be disciplined, reined-in or even told what to do.
Parents and teachers have been stripped of their right to chastise and to punish kids, which is why the feral oiks roaming our streets have no fear, no conscience and no sense of right and wrong.
These mini-criminals know that whatever they do it will always be excused (or ignored) by a government that refuses to accept some children are motivated by evil.
These are the very children who NEED decent parents - yet it's not an option for most of them, which is why they must be taken in hand and, yes, punished if need be, by a force bigger and scarier than them.
And maybe if that had happened to those two boys from Doncaster (aged just 10 and 11) then they wouldn't have ended up torturing two little lads to the point of death.
By the age of 10, those toe-rags had notched up 40 crimes between them yet the law did nothing. Social services did nothing. The police did nothing and their idiot parents did nothing.
Consequently they believed they were invincible, which is why they battered two innocent boys (aged nine and 11) with bricks, forced them to sexually abuse each other, stubbed out a cigarette on one boy's eyelid and stamped on his genitals then sliced open the arm of the other and stuck a burning cigarette into the wound.
One boy had his head stamped on so viciously he went temporarily blind.
But despite the fact these monsters danced around those bleeding boys shouting "they're not dead yet", they haven't been charged with attempted murder. They have been allowed to plead guilty to a lesser charge.
But why? Why in the face of such undiluted evil have these boys, yet again, been offered the soft option? Is that going to make them realise they've done something horribly wrong? I don't think so.
And no, it hasn't helped that they have a drug-addicted mother who sprinkled cannabis on their food to make them sleep. Which is why it was always going to be up to the social services, the police, health workers and our legal system to show these boys the way. And they've all failed - spectacularly!
And who was it who decided that "empowering" kids was a good idea? Why did we tell them they had rights, that they were our equals, that their needs were paramount? They're not.
Children, especially the bad ones, need rules, they need guidance and they need to live in a society that cares how they grow up - a society that says "enough" when they step out of line.
Cocky
Because we've all now had enough of cocky kids who know they can hurt people, scare them, damage their property, even half-kill them - safe in the knowledge that the law will look away.
Children also need to know fear, because without it they won't follow society's rules. They also need to know there are boundaries that if crossed will result in REAL punishment - NOT community service and NOT Asbos.
Those two Doncaster boys deserve to be punished - but they probably won't be. They'll be put somewhere to be "helped".
The REAL tragedy here is that at 11 years old it's already too late to save minds as warped as theirs.
And that's the fault of this unthinking, cheapskate Government that likes to be seen to throw money at education and child protection - but doesn't actually give a stuff.
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Hi Carole!
I live in Italy and for over 10 years been reading your articles. I like the way you speak the truth, even against the affluent people in the society, and if the Government will listen that will change a lot of things. There is too much freedom for these kids and the law doesn't help to punish them for these heinous crimes as a lesson to those who plan evil. More grease to your elbows Carole.
By Reggie Tagoe.. Posted September 11 2009 at 12:40 AM.
i have initiated a sheme in my workplace to provide training places for many youngsters who have been excluded from schools or awaiting trial ,whilst nearly all start with a bad/cocky attitude ALL have turned their lives around whilst with us , we do not 'mollycoddle ' them but make it clear that a bad attitude /mood cannot be tolerated as we work with rescue animals and they pick up on it , however we also are always there to listen to their problems and a helping hand when they ask , most of these youngsters come from families with drug or alcohol issues and hav e never had guidelines , boundaries, or been made responsible for their actions.we now have youngsters in vetinary school, many in equestrian college, and armed forces animal handlers we are extremely proud of these young people and would recomend anyone that is in a position to offer them similair support and training places do so it is very rewarding.
By gee.. Posted September 6 2009 at 6:59 PM.
Bring back borstals and punishment for dregs like this the birch would stop them laughing
By susanah.. Posted September 6 2009 at 4:53 PM.
as 77 year old whats wrong with bringing back borstals and aprove schools. In my youth people that I knew, that had been in them did not go back again, and they were so called hard boys. Keep up the good work Carole someone at sometime will be listening, and might act
By jim unwin.. Posted September 6 2009 at 1:58 PM.
Hi Carole read ur article and yeah its really awful what happened and love and healing goes to these 2 boys to a speedy recovery.This has happened consistently since i can remember nothing has changed.I grew up in Liverpool and it was the same there but,it takes a tragedy for people to react or respond.Too many people agree with you but dont do anything and never will.Remember Sarahs Law it was rejected what chance have we got to protect anyone.You guys have the power and the voice but dont do anything with it except one off articles.
Bring back National Service and help people earn respect for themselves and others.
By Peter... Posted September 6 2009 at 12:00 PM.
My thoughts exactly. I have never been in trouble or punished but I do remember my parents and school explaining to me what would happen if the need arose and that was enough to keep me on the right path. I wasn't threatened, it wasn't a horror story, just the plain truth about right and wrong and how I was to grow up.
All children need rules, discipline, a sense of right and wrong and good manners - this does not cost a penny!
There were children in my classes from large families with little money and even these children were better behaved than most today and they had less parental time due to coming from a family of 14.
Stop listening to politicians and Brussels and start giving adults, police, schools and parent their rights as adults back. Discipline isn't abuse or being cruel, it's necessary.
By Tina.. Posted September 6 2009 at 12:15 PM.
As usual, Carol Malone is spot on! But who's listening and cares to do anything about so many evils an rotteness in our society?
No one!
By simon.. Posted September 6 2009 at 10:13 AM.
Carole, I so wish you would run for government, you always say what the general public are thinking.
I remember when i was a child calling a neighbour a silly cow and running away, she ran after me gave me a clout around the ear! I didnt call her names again, in fact I was always very polite to her after that.
This country is now a mess due to creating its nanny state. Lock these children up and throw away the key, they should not be able to mix in society for at least 25yrs.
If we gave this message to every child out there who want to play these dangerous games,then we would be at the start of creating a country who shows its not going to toletate crime, whatever age you are!
By sue hepworth.. Posted September 6 2009 at 10:12 AM.
The saddest thing of all will be that these two dispicable, nasty, evil and feral kids will get more help and attention lavished on them than their victims who will be forgotten about and left to 'get on with it' while their perpetrators will have thousands spent on them in a vain attempt to 'rehabilitate' them. Once evil always evil I say.
It reminds me of my friends estate. It's a bit dodgy, not 'sink', but it had some 'bad' kids causing trouble. When people complained to the council about them, these 'ferals' were taken to a theme park for a day out!! What did the 'good' kids get for behaving themselves and staying out of trouble? A big fat nothing that's what! When the residents complained that it was out of order 'rewarding' them for bad behaviour instead of tackling their parent(s), they were told 'well at least you's get a day of rest from them'!!!
Now what is THAT teaching our kids? Be a little sod and you'll get rewarded that's what. I felt so sorry for the kids who behaved themselves yet had poor parents so they didn't get to go anywhere. What's the betting that they'll start getting into bother soon? They've already learnt that 'crime/being bad pays'.
The country has officially gone mad.
By Lorraine.. Posted September 6 2009 at 3:25 AM.
Well Said Carole
The acts that these 2 feril children forced on 2 innocent boys were dispicable, and don't bear thinking about.
I am a single parent of 2 teenage children who have made mistakes, (very few children are perfect) but never have they been aggresive or abusive, as whilst they are aware of the law protecting them from a "clip around the ear" they are also aware that if they abuse my trust that is exactly what they will get. My son is 17 considerably taller and physically stronger than myself but he respects my position as head of our household and fully appreciates the values by which our household operates.
As a child of the 60's I was very much brought up along with my brothers that we should be respectful to our elders and those in positions of responsibility, manners cost nothing.
I have been known to chastise teenagers outside my local supermarket for spitting, as I refuse to be intimidated by a bunch of kids, its a shame that our society has been reduced to such levels of fear.
I sincerely hope that the innocent boys get the appropriate care to enable them to put this episode behind them and to rebuild their trust in human nature, and that the boys responsible get the sentences that they deserve, along with their irresponsible parents.
By P.. Posted September 5 2009 at 8:56 PM.